I think it looks pretty fair. “Big Nog” did beat Cro Cop, but these are UFC rankings, not Pride. Well thanks for all the works you guys do to keep us up to date.

Later
Chris Valentine

The way Swick got worked, it’s hard to believe he didn’t drop farther.

Oh but I do think Diego is still better then Kos, but only time will tell.

Later
Chris Valentine

why is it Fitch above sanchez? sanchez should be number 4 and fitch be number 5

UFCmania…Why has the UFC held off on announcing the new 145lb weight division?

Is it just me?, or does serra look/feel like he doesnt belong there?.Especially with that over sized glove, in the picture head..

It does look like Serra’s pick was added later, but could be coincidence.

Later
Chris

looks good

That’s because no one fucking expected him to win. Haha. St. Pierre is a better fighter. Bad night. Shit happens. Look at Couture Liddell 1.

Rankings look fair enough, I wouldn’t change anything

Good stuff—-wouldnt change a thing. (But Werdum is nice, hint hint.

hw:
cro cop
big nog
tim sylvia
arlovski
werdum honorable mention: vera, gonzaga, kongo,
herring
lhw:
tito
rah
machida
rampage
jardine honorable mention: forrest, bisping, lambert,
babalu, hamill
mw:
rich
marquardt
kendell
okami
mcdonald honorable mention: ed herman, kampmann, lutter

ww:
gsp
hughes
diego
karo
koscheck honorable mention: chris lytle, fitch,
fickett, this is crazy but luke cummo
lw:
b.j.
joe stevenson
kenny florian
roger huerta
frank edgar honorable mention: hermes, ty griffin, spencer
fisher, jens pulver

Dumb question - how come UFC itself does not have a ranking system that is published?

Would this not lend more credibility to a fledgling sport that aspires to gain recognition as a legitimate form of organized athletics?

The natural comparison is to the various factions in boxing, each of whom have title holders and their own rankings of participants.

Anyone care to comment or enlighten?

i don’t like fitch ahead of diego, i don’t like rah over tito, and for some reason i really don’t think hermes franca is a number one contender, i can see a lot of lw’s beating him, just my opinion

also i put swick in ww because i think he’s gonna make the move, and i think its a good move…

Fitch shouldn’t be above Diego! What the hell kind of shit is that??? And how you going to put someone who hasn’t even fought in the UFC in the top 5. Vera can stop whoever the UFC puts in front of him, GUARANTEED!!!

No Fabricio Werdum? I didn’t realize until tonight, but apparently that guy is underrated.

Good rankings guys if you do not agree with ufcmania because of the Fitch how the hell is brandon vera in top 5 did he beat any top 5 fighter??Answer is no.

also, i think kendell has shown he deserves to be ranked, he’s a top guy in the 185 no doubt in my mind…

Exchange Vera with Werdum, move up Okami further and make Huerta switch position with Florian. Then I’d sign it.

Tito at 3rd? Is this a joke? Tito hasn’t beaten ANYBODY in years (or his career for that matter) except for Forrest Griffin, and anybody who knows MMA that saw that fight will tell you that Griffin won that fight, not Tito. Tito shouldn’t be higher than 5th on that list if he deserves to be there at all. A fighter’s popularity should not have any effect on the fighter rankings.

I don’t like the idea of polling the media. The media rarely knows what the hell they are talking about. Most of them don’t watch anything but the highlights of the fights. Find some fans that really know something about MMA and poll them.

Every other division has something I could dispute but it is close enough that it’s not worth it. I can at least understand WHY some of those fighters are ranked where they are. But I CANNOT understand why Tito is on this list.

[quote comment=”32845″]Exchange Vera with Werdum, move up Okami further and make Huerta switch position with Florian. Then I’d sign it.[/quote]

I was thinking something of these lines. I think Werdum deserves to be there, but I am sure he will be there after he submits Arlovski on 21st.

[quote comment=”32805″]Fitch shouldn’t be above Diego! What the hell kind of shit is that??? And how you going to put someone who hasn’t even fought in the UFC in the top 5. Vera can stop whoever the UFC puts in front of him, GUARANTEED!!![/quote]
[quote comment=”32805″]Fitch shouldn’t be above Diego! What the hell kind of shit is that??? And how you going to put someone who hasn’t even fought in the UFC in the top 5. Vera can stop whoever the UFC puts in front of him, GUARANTEED!!![/quote]

CroCop and Rampage got spot when they joined UFC. Some fighters of caliber like Mirko and Nog deserves to be in any top 5, simply because there are. I personally cant wait for rematch between these to, also I am curious will Werdum be able to get rematch with Nog.

Why is Rashad still above Tito?

Guys… pure props for your rankings. Everything on there looks good. Some arguments can be made of course, but everything seems pretty right-on. Other rankings are so jacked up. mmaweekly.com is TERRIBLE. GOOD JOB, MANIA.

I would say put BJ Penn in the WW, he said he was only in the -155 to fight Pulver then move back up.

In that case it would be…

Serra
1. GSP
2.Matt Hughs
3. BJ PENN
4. Koscheck
5. Diego (He fought Karo, Did Fitch?)

It really bugs me they dont have a real ranking system in place, I agree if they want it to be a respected sport things have to happen for a reason other than to make $$$ and make fights that pro-long a division. There are enough fighters out there you just cant be cheap and not pay the best.

GOOD JOB MANIA I CAN’T WAIT TILL WE SEE WHO’S #1 IN THE FUTURE.

they look solid, I’m just not a fan of Ranking a fighter at a weight ie: Nog, Penn, when Nog has yet to have a fight in the UFC and Penn has yet to fight at 155 in years.

Just my opinion.

i like em Ufcmania….Fitch was ranked #1 on some rankings..worldwide not just ufc, i dont think hes that far yet….i agree with him being above diego on the account that he hasnt lost in a long time and Diego just lost saturday, not……The only thing Im gonna say about 205 is i hope Machida pans out like everyone thinks he will…i havent seen much of him, no one really has…but im not as impressed as everyone else….His win over Franklin is the only credintials i give him….Forrest has also beaten Bonnar and Hogar, and im sure could beat a chubby blown up BJ.

“Tito at 3rd? Is this a joke? Tito hasn’t beaten ANYBODY in years (or his career for that matter) except for Forrest Griffin”

Right, other than Guy Mezger, Vitor Belfort, Wanderlai Silva, Yuki Kondo, Evan Tanner, and Vladimir Matyushenko, Tito Ortiz hasn’t beaten anyone.

yeah good list still ufc needs a ranking system i dont care how but it would gain more rep and make dana look less greedy if thats possible

I have to assume that once Swick makes the drop that Diego will be out of the 170 rankings. He showed that he does not have any kind of standup against Koscheck. I also think that Guillard wouldnt have dropped so much if he hadnt made that one mistake early in that fight. That shit cost me 20 bucks.

Anyway, I think if you are going to put Noguiera in the top 5 before he has even fought in the cage, than it is only fair that Werdum ends up there too. I also am looking forward to seeing Machida up there after he shows David Heath that there is a class system in this sport and that Heath is a few down from him.

“Tito hasn’t beaten ANYBODY in years (or his career for that matter) except for Forrest Griffin, and anybody who knows MMA that saw that fight will tell you that Griffin won that fight, not Tito.”

i’ve watched that fight about 4 times and tito definitely won dude, and he’s been a bad dude his whole career, you can say rah hasn’t fought anybody too, i think after those two fight we’ll have a much clearer picture of the lhws…

well Mahde, Big Nog has a win over Werdum, and has beaten everybody in Pride except Fedor…includng Cro Cop…so I think his spot is good, maybe he should even be ranked higher…Werdum has his hands full with Arlovski, it might be reminiscent of the Alrovski-Cruz fight, if werdum beats Arlovski, obviously he deserves to be there….if Arlovki loses, i still think he should be above Vera…untill Vera fights a true contender….and are you talking Heaths class as a fighter or his lack of class as a person, im unfamiliar with him, is he an ass

[quote post=”1790″]I don’t like the idea of polling the media. The media rarely knows what the hell they are talking about. Most of them don’t watch anything but the highlights of the fights. Find some fans that really know something about MMA and poll them.[/quote]

The reporters, bloggers and others who I asked are extremeley familiar with MMA. These guys and gals often sit ringside, have blogs and certainly have more access to the promotion than us here.

It’s more than just a job for these people, it’s a passion.

This isn’t open to any Tom, Dick or Harry off the street. It’s a small collection of hand-picked writers who are very familiar with the UFC and MMA.

I think their opinions — and the others at UFC mania who contribute — ensures that biases don’t dictate rankings.

Besides, it’s all subjective. And if they were “perfect” there would be nothing to talk about.

The rankings open up some good discussion, which is evidenced by the comments above.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in … I was expecting a shit storm!

WHY IS THE PIC OF SHERK SO LARGE AND OUT OF PROPORTION WITH ALL THE OTHERS?

I think what people mean by Tito not beating anyone is based on time-frame. I dont beleive anyone is trying to discredit Tito as a fighter but more so on the fact that he has not beaten anyone of current relevence except Forrest & Wand. It’s true, if you look at Tito’s fight history, he has not beaten anyone except Forrest. It has truly been YEARS since he has chalked up consecutive wins.

I’m pretty happy with your list this month… I think your contributer’s are a good group. I often find good articles in the Houston Cronicle, and Baltimore Sun.. Reporters who know mma are few and far between. The local paper here in Calgary has an mma blog, and the writer is amaturish, and the it is always super old news, and there are only a couple people commenting. Thanks for all the work you guys do keeping UFC news up to date here.

Why is Tito 3rd? Why is Fitch above Diego? Hey guys these are rankings which are the opinion of a few informed people. OPINION. If you disagree, don’t bash the people who voted. Just state why you would have ranked ‘em differently.

I have to agree with Mad Squabbles; Werdum will be on the top 5 heavyweight list soon enough.

And to whoever asked why Nogueira is on the list before he ever fought, I am just going to ask you to go on YouTube and try to find some videos of his fights. The man has a head made of concrete, nobody has ever knocked him out. And he is one of the best ground tacticians in any division in the world. To rank him any lower would be an insult to one great athlete.

[quote comment=”32845″]Exchange Vera with Werdum, move up Okami further and make Huerta switch position with Florian. Then I’d sign it.[/quote]
We are brothers. Stop reading my mind, YTed.

All in all, I think its the best list done to date. The only point I would argue has been said. Werdum should be 5, but he hasnt fought yet, and AA could get lucky.

And mad admiration in sorting out the LWs. The LWGP needs to be expanded to 3 rounds of 36 fighters. SOOOO MANY GREAT ONES!!!!

I mentioned this last month but Anderson Silva has an official site.

http://www.spidersilva.com/

So you can make his name clickable on the list like everyone else.

[quote comment=”33167″]I mentioned this last month but Anderson Silva has an official site.

http://www.spidersilva.com/

So you can make his name clickable on the list like everyone else.[/quote]

Thanks buddy. Doing it now.

[quote comment=”32756″]UFCmania…Why has the UFC held off on announcing the new 145lb weight division?[/quote]
is this for real

I have a question UFCmania. Are these rankings based in order of talent, or a guess at the order of title contention? It can’t be both, just wondering what the base of the ranking system is. I do like them, I’m a big fan of rankings, and these look good. Thanks

i can’t say who should be ranked where,but since when is a person’s popularity have anything to do with being ranked?…… Tito beat Griffen(techniclly),and old ass Shamrock twice…. so why did he get a title shot? Why is he ranked? Why am I wasting my time typing this?……

[quote comment=”33483″]i can’t say who should be ranked where,but since when is a person’s popularity have anything to do with being ranked?…… Tito beat Griffen(techniclly),and old ass Shamrock twice…. so why did he get a title shot? Why is he ranked? Why am I wasting my time typing this?……[/quote]
CAUSE YOU LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS WEB SITE KEEP TYPING WHEN THINGS AEN’T GOING AWAY CAUSE …YOU WANT TO BE HEARD GRASSHOPPER.AND YOU THINK TITO HASN’T BEATEN NOBODY HE LOST ALL HIS TUFF FIGHTS (CHUCK,RANDY,GRIFFIN,,O WAIT THEY PLAYED FORREST)BUT I WILL SAY THIS IF TITO LOSES THAN WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO JENNA ORTIZ CAUSE I DON’T WANT HER BUT THE ZOO I WORK FOR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER FUCK A CHIMP SHE’S ALREADY FUCKING A BIG HEADED APE.

[quote comment=”33058″]”Tito hasn’t beaten ANYBODY in years (or his career for that matter) except for Forrest Griffin, and anybody who knows MMA that saw that fight will tell you that Griffin won that fight, not Tito.”

i’ve watched that fight about 4 times and tito definitely won dude, and he’s been a bad dude his whole career, you can say rah hasn’t fought anybody too, i think after those two fight we’ll have a much clearer picture of the lhws…[/quote]

I don’t know Spida, Everyone I talked to that saw that fight thought Forrest one. When I seen your Comment I went and watched the fight again to refresh my memory,(I streamed it through my pc and put it on DVD) and other than the first round, Forrest took him. I think the only reason he pulled out the victory is because the UFC judges overate the take down. Don’t get me wrong, you can neutralize your apponant, and in the case of Tito he can really ground and pound, but that last take down did not accomplish nothing.

Just opinion but I did think Forrest should have won that fight, but he did not and Tito did.

Later
Chris

Rashad over Tito??? Still a problem. Have him beat Tito first

Leave Vera at 5 but he won’t be there long

I prefer out rankings over MMAWeekly’s ranking. They get more respect from non-MMA media like Fox or CBS, but seriously, …
http://www.mmaweekly.com/topten.asp
Serra as #1 WW in the world??!?!?!?
Lindland as top MW?!?! That’s over Hendo, Nate, Silva, Kang…crazy.
Tito as a top 10 in the world?!?!?!
UFCMania, mad respect when compared to this crazy list.

“…our rankings…” I hate when I miss a spelling error, AND I read through it!!!!

[quote post=”1790″]I think what people mean by Tito not beating anyone is based on time-frame. I dont beleive anyone is trying to discredit Tito as a fighter but more so on the fact that he has not beaten anyone of current relevence except Forrest & Wand. It’s true, if you look at Tito’s fight history, he has not beaten anyone except Forrest. It has truly been YEARS since he has chalked up consecutive wins.[/quote]

That is pretty much the gist of my post. The fact still remains though that even early in his career he wasn’t fighting the best fighters. A lot of his early fights were against fighters past their prime. His recent fights have been against absolute nobodies, except Forrest Griffin, and as I mentioned before, he won that fight. Someone else stated it perfectly. The judges overrate the take-down. Granted, Tito was on top for a lot of that fight BUT he was getting the worst of it from Griffin who was on his back. If you watch that fight again, Griffin does more damage to Tito from his back than Tito does to him from the top. Just because a wrestler can hold someone down for 15 minutes doesn’t mean they won the fight.

I am not saying that Tito is not a good fighter. He is still a monster BUT he has rarely fought the top competition and when he has, he has lost. I just don’t respect him as a fighter. I do however respect him as a coach. What he did on TUF was nothing short of amazing. I just don’t think he deserves to be in the top 5 of any MMA rankings and I believe the only reason is because of popularity, not skill.

cant believe Tito is higher than Jardine. wanna see them two fight. Believe Jardines Yet to showcase his talents, Rashad should be where he is, He has been consistant, but they all are till they meet Chucky, wanna see chuck smash them all.

Jardine could be real good.I don’t think he gets enough hype.He’s better than tito or rashad.But nobody will beat chuck for a few more years

Love to see Chuck and Jardine. Chucky would smash him but it would make the highlights reel!

Well I totally disagree with most of your rankings, the only thing I agree with is your ranking of the champions. Here’s my opinion on all the weightclasses

Heavyweight Champion: Randy “The Natural”/”Captain America” Couture

2. Cro Cop
3. Gonzaga (Seeing as how he is fighting for #1 contendership)
4. Arlovski
5. Nogueira

Sylvia is over-rated, Randy proved that and the only reason Arlovski lost in their most recent bout was because of his knee.

Light Heavyweight: Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell

Where do you people get off naming B.J. Penn as the #2 lightweight contender? He is a 10-4 MMA fighter who has lost 3 of his last 4 fights. On top of that he hasn’t had a win over a top notch well rounded fighter in over 3 years since he beat Matt Hughes.
The lightweight division isn’t that thin is it?

matt hughes should not be 2 matt hughes is the best welterweigt in the word the only reason he lost to gsp is because he didnt utilize his better wrestling mat hughes will beat matt serra than defend his title to koscheck

quinton jackson smashed chuck before and he will do it again i am sick of seeing chuck win

chuck in the 1st round will demolish jackson.

I don’t know why they decided to feed Jackson to Liddel so soon. With all the upsets going on (Couture, Sera, Gonzaga), who knows? The Iceman wants this one! After they carry Jackson off in a body bag, Liddel’s legacy is complete and with the clock ticking on his career, I think he is ripe for upset- maybe even later this year.

no no no the standings should look like this
heavyweights
1-randy coture
2-gabriel gonzaga
3-big nog
4-andre arloskie
5-branden vera
6-tim silvia
7-mircro crocop
8-check kongo
9-jeff monson
10-jake obrian

lightheavyweights
1-chuck liddel
2-quinton jackson
3-rashad evens
4-tito ortiz
5-kieth jardien
6-yoto manchda
7-micheal binsping
8-jason lambert
9-forrest griffen
10-matt hamill

middelweights
1-anderson silva
2-nate marquet
3-rich franklin
4-yushin okami
5-mark kampton
6-kendel grove
7-mike swick
8-dean lister
9-jason mcdonald
10-ed herman

welterweights
1-matt serra
2-matt hughes
3-josh koscheck
4-george st pierre
5-karo paraytian
6-jon fitch
7-diego sanchez
8-josh burkman
9-nick diaz
10-luke cummo

lightweights
1-sean sherk
2-hermes franca
3-joe stevenson
4-bj penn
5-kenny florian
6-roger huerta
7-din tomas
8-mark harmnick
9-duan ludwig
10-spencer fisher

and that is how it should be if u got any comments lets hear them

UFC TOP FIGHTERS

HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (up to 265 LBS.)
1. Randy Couture
2. Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4. Andrei Arlovski
5. Brandon Vera
6. Mirko Cro Cop
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Fabricio Werdum
9. Cheick Kongo
10. Heath Herring

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (205 LBS.)

1. Chuck Liddell
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Ryoto Lyoto
4. Rashad Evans
5. Tito Ortiz
6. Jason Lambert
7. Keith Jardine
8. Michael Bisping
9. Renato Sobral
10.Forrest Griffin

MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION (185 LBS.)

1. Anderson Silva
2. Rich Franklin
3. Nathan Marquardt
4. Yushin Okami
5. Mike Swick
6. Kendall Grove
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Dean Lister
9. Jason MacDonald
10. Chris leben

WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170 LBS.)

1. Matt Sarra
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Matt Hughes
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Jon Fitch
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Karo Parisyan
8. Josh Burkman
9. Thiago Alves
10. Drew Fickett

LIGHT WEIGHT DIVISION (155 LBS.)

1. Sean Sherk
2. B.J. Penn
3. Hermes Franca
4. Kenny Florian
5. Joe Stevenson
6. Roger Huerta
7. Spencer Fisher
8. Melvin Guillard
9. Din Thomas
10. Kurt Pellegrino

derek no mercy it looks like you dont follow anything but ufc

you also speldeded eevary name wong daaaaa daaaaa

Its so very simple, the rankings are as follows:

Heavyweight Champion - Randy Couture (At 43 he looks like he fights like a 23 year old)
Contenders
1. Gabriel Gonzaga (After an emphatic KO over the much hyped Cro Cop, he clearly goes on to face Randy by summer’s end)
2. Big Nog (Clearly will fight for the title in the next coming months)
3. Andre Arvloski
4. Brandon Vera
5. Jake O’Brien
6. Check Kongo
7. Tim Sylvia (Tough shit when you lose you fall)
8. Mirko Cro Cop (When you get rocked that hard you fall in the ranks)
9. Heath Herring (Basically out of shape, throws a hard punch but not MMA quality)

Light Heavyweight Champion - Chuck Liddell (Entourage’s and MMA’s poster boy)
1. Quinton “Rampage” Jackson
2. Tito Ortiz
3. Rashad Evans (Hasn’t beaten Tito just yet TBD)
4. Keith Jardine (Can you say fluke KO)
5. Michael Bisping
6. Forrest Griffen (Still tough as nails, Basically whooped Tito)
7. Lyota Machida

Middleweight Champion - Andreson Silva
The UFC’s most boring division
1. Nate Marquete (Yes MMA newbies he is that good)
2. Rich Franklin
3. Martin Kampmann
4. Yushin Okami (This boy can flat out hit hard)
5. Kendall Grove (Hard to believe but he’s climbing the ladder)
6. Jason MacDonald (Proved he is tough and holds only a loss to Franklin)
7. Mike Swick

Welterweight Champion - Matt Serra
1. Matt Hughs (Serra wont be on top for much longer)
2. Jon Fitch (yes he is that good and is in line)

This is where it gets a little tougher to guage………
3. Josh Koscheck
4. George St. Pierre (ranked fourth because he beat Hughs and lost to the champ)
5. Diego Sanchez (only one loss on his record and he holds a win over Karo)
6. Karo Parishan (a crybaby if you ask me Diego laced this fool)
7. Josh Burkman

Lightweight Champion - Sean Shrek (and he last fough when……)
1. Hermes Franca (this kid can flat out brawl)
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Roger Huerta (Prob has a date with Ken Flo very soon)
4. Kenny Florian
5. Din Thomas
6. Spencer Fischer (recent loss to #1 contender Franca)
7. Duane Ludwig
8. BJ Penn (he may be 155 again but will have to prove his value)
9. Jens Pulver (after getting rocked by a member of TUF, your lucky to be ranked this high)
10. Kevin Kelly from Queens NY that kid can straight up fight lol
4.

u put jake o’brien at five your a idiot

206-450-9747 call this number and ask for holly for a good time.

Yes April I did place Jake O’Brien at number five sweetheart, he is an outstanding wrestler and is undefeated. He handily whooped Heath Herring’s ass at a point where he was so hyped coming over from Pride which is a tier 2 organization. How can I place him above guys like Tim Sylvia and Cro Cop ? Its simple sweetheart, you win you move up and when you lose WHEN YOU ARE EXPECTED TO WIN you move wayyyy down. Its a business and when you dont preform you gotta start from scratch again especially if you come from Pride.

[quote comment=”48504″]Yes April I did place Jake O’Brien at number five sweetheart, he is an outstanding wrestler and is undefeated. He handily whooped Heath Herring’s ass at a point where he was so hyped coming over from Pride which is a tier 2 organization. How can I place him above guys like Tim Sylvia and Cro Cop ? Its simple sweetheart, you win you move up and when you lose WHEN YOU ARE EXPECTED TO WIN you move wayyyy down. Its a business and when you dont preform you gotta start from scratch again especially if you come from Pride.[/quote]

all he did was lay on heath SUGERTITS
and i guarantee that he will never get a shot at the belt

Kevin Kelly you’re on crack!!!!

Top to Bottom:

Gonzaga shouldn’t be #1 You should at least have 2 victories over top fighters to get to #1 he only beat one top guy in Cro Cop.

Kongo is good but he certainly doesn’t bypass Cro Cop & Silvia from one cheapo win. Remember he just lost to Carmello Merrero.

Heath Herring doesn’t belong anywhere near the top ten. Beating Brad Imes means jack shit nothing. It does nothing more but to possibly give you another fight in the UFC if that.

What the Fuc# is Forrest Griffen doing ahead of Lyoto Machida.
I mean I love Forrest & hope he earns a top five spot someday but that day certainly isn’t here yet. He’s at #10 for now. There’s Jason Lambert and Babalu ahead of him also.

Kampmann Almost got knocked out by McFedries & will get knocked out by Franklin. How in the hell does he get above Okami?… Crack I say!!! Kampmann hasn’t beaten a single top fighter yet. He’s #5 maybe but Okami just beat Swick (who is a top fighter as proven by knocking everbody out in less than 30 seconds, Swickateening Riggs, beating Loiseau who is also a top fighter). Swick being a stud makes beating him a good reason to sit behind Fraklin @ #3. As for Swick, one loss to Okami doesn’t drop you below someone who hasn’t beaten anyone of note.

Yes GSP just beat Matt Hughes and Hughes’ victory over Lytle doesn’t make up for that. St. Pierre is #1.

As for BJ, big NOG hasn’t proved himself in the UFC yet & you somehow see it fit to give him #2 in the heavyweight division… fair enough. He has proved himself elsewhere. So BJ lost to Matt Hughes & GSP… Who hasn’t lost to those two guys. On top of that he had both those guys in trouble & was winning each of those fights before he lost. BJ is capable of beating them too he just didn’t because they are a (key word) little (emphasis on the little) bit better than he is. BJ should be #1. If you really insist on him proving himself he should be no lower than #3. But Fu#@ he’s already proved himself & in my opinion there is nobody in the lightweight division who can beat him. BJ will have the belt as soon as he gets his title shot.

You seem to be doing a lot of wishful thinking for your favorite fighters & no thinking about the fighters you don’t like.

Sorry to be so insulting but you shouldn’t post dumb shit like that.

And it’s Nate Marquardt not Marquete.

K7AME7 is cosest to the mark

The major changes I’d make from his list are:

Gonzaga #3 behind Nog & Arlovski (I consider #1 to be the #1 contender and the Champ doesn’t get a number if anyone is confused)

I’d throw Herring off he list.

And Lyoto Machida would be behind Evans.

Overall much more intelligent picks than Kelly.

Kevy are you serious ? Gonzaga is fighting next for the title in the UFC thats a DEFINITE its happening. How isnt he the number 1 contender? And Im on crack? He is fighting for the title which makes him the number one contender thats it no debate lol. Whether you think he should be #1 or you think he shouldnt be #1 is irrelevant because he is the top contender as said by Dana White.

Cro Cop falls right out of the top five because he hasnt beaten anyone of value. So why would he be in any top five ? Name alone means nothing and I think thats where your head is at. Name recognition isnt everything. Stop with the mainstream BS.

Theoretically Kampmann is the number 3 contender. How do I come to this conclusion? Its simple Dana White has Nate scheduled to fight Anderson Silva which makes Nate number 1. Rich Franklin is the number 2 contender without question. Being that he is fighting Kampmann, helloooooooooo Kampmann becomes the number 3 contender in line for the belt. Why are you debating with the facts?

I cant shit on you completely you make some valid points regarding Okami and Swick so I wont muscle you up against the fence for that but come on a lil level headed ness never hurt anyone. Seriously process this information for a lil while anyway, give it some thought.

Again based on FACT GSP is not the number one contender OK?????? Hughes is scheduled to fight Serra for the title after TUF6 which will be by summer’s end. Fighting the champ makes you number 1 contender and Matt Hughes is the #1 based on Dana White making that fight happen lol get over it. When you come off of a loss you fall in the ranks. Jon Fitch is the number 2 contender and then it looks like this……………………………

Koscheck, GSP, Diego, Karo, Burkman …. those are the facts because it is what it is.

You’re up kid

[quote comment=”49185″]Kevy are you serious ? Gonzaga is fighting next for the title in the UFC thats a DEFINITE its happening. How isnt he the number 1 contender? And Im on crack? He is fighting for the title which makes him the number one contender thats it no debate lol. Whether you think he should be #1 or you think he shouldnt be #1 is irrelevant because he is the top contender as said by Dana White.

Theoretically Kampmann is the number 3 contender. How do I come to this conclusion? Its simple Dana White has Nate scheduled to fight Anderson Silva which makes Nate number 1. Rich Franklin is the number 2 contender without question. Being that he is fighting Kampmann, helloooooooooo Kampmann becomes the number 3 contender in line for the belt. Why are you debating with the facts?

Again based on FACT GSP is not the number one contender OK?????? Hughes is scheduled to fight Serra for the title after TUF6 which will be by summer’s end. Fighting the champ makes you number 1 contender and Matt Hughes is the #1 based on Dana White making that fight happen lol get over it. When you come off of a loss you fall in the ranks. Jon Fitch is the number 2 contender and then it looks like this……………………………
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Just because a fight is made the made fight does not tell you what a person’s ranking is. Fights are sometimes made based on what would be an exciting fight and also who is available. The #1 contender might have just had a fight with someone else or be injured… In this case you might have the #2 or #3 contender get a title shot. It’s your merits not your scheduled fight that make your ranking. Kampmann is available and is a better fight to showcase Franklin as Swick and Okami have a chance to beat him. It’s in the UFCs best interests to build up Franklin’s highlight reel & make him look good before his next title shot. Look at Matt Hughes. He gets a title shot after beating Chris Lytle. Was Chris Lytle the #1 contender? Is that why Hughes is getting a title shot?… If Chris Lytle was the #1 contender before Hughes that is news to me. Chris Lytle was a warm fight for Hughes. UFC threw him a bone in the form of Lytle.

Looks like you’ve been arranging your top ten based on Joe Silva’s fight selections. This is where you err.

And if reputation doesn’t matter why in the hell do you have BIG NOG at #2? You are contradicting yourself.

Time for you to use some of your level headedness. The top ten system is based on wins but moreso who you won against and although more favour is given to the fights within the UFC all fights contribute to your ranking.

Again some valid points Kevy so no use in arguing with you. I place Big Nog at number two based on the quality of opponents he has faced in his career and the fact that he is raw as hell and tough as nails. Not to mention that yes Joe Silva will prob place him against Andre Arvloski and then the winner of Couture/Gonzaga.

Didnt wanna get in to an arguemtn online, difference of opinion nothing more. I like the fact that you do make some solid points and are on top of the MMA game. In terms of Hughes, your not ever going to win that argument with me. He is the number on contender because he is the greatest welterweight we have ever seen, no disputing that. His “tune up” fight with Lytle was just that and he’ll rip Serra up real good.

Definitly like ur input so keep it coming ….. Kevin Kelly 154 lb. champ

It’s true that if the #1 contender is busy or injured the title shot can go to the #2 or #3 contender. case in point, after GSP beat BJ Penn to win the #1 contendership and title shot at Matt Hughes, GSP was injured in training and so BJ got the fight and the rest is history… good argument though guy’s you both have good points.