
By Jesse Holland
Special to UFCmania.com
Have you ever been in a situation where someone tells a joke in front of a group of people and it bombs? And instead of having the grace and dignity to accept defeat they just stand there and try to either expound on the joke with an even worse follow-up joke, or they try and walk you through it to explain why it was funny enough to be told in the first place?
That’s kind of how I feel about the upcoming premiere of Bad Blood: Dana White vs. Tito Ortiz tomorrow at 11 p.m. on Spike TV. Only this joke, in addition to being humorless, has no punch line. What started as an awful premise has become nothing more than a contemptuous and embarrassing extension of bad taste for all parties involved.
The show is an in-depth look at the exhibition boxing match Dana White and Tito Ortiz were set to have on March 24 after many years of name calling and finger pointing because as we’ve all learned, fighting solves everything.
However, the promised three-round session never happened.
I won’t bore you with another retread of how or why Dana and Tito were going to fight in the first place. You can catch up on the history from one of our earlier posts here.
I’m sure the primeval among us will beat on their chests and tell you what a great idea this was since the whole concept of the UFC is built upon two men beating the crap out of each other.
But this is not an accurate assessment.
What happens inside the Octagon is a sport with honor and integrity. Using your skill and ability to settle differences outside of the cage in the name of MMA is like using a Louisville Slugger to smash a pitcher’s mailbox after striking out in the World Series in the name of baseball.
No matter.
After all the talk and all the hype Tito was a no-show and that surprised me because he seemed to be the one that wanted this fight the most. Ask him what happened and he did something so inexcusable, so mind-boggling, I can barely put it into words: He checked with his girlfriend and she said no.
Folks I have nothing against Jenna Jameson. She’s done a lot for the male population. But as you’ll read here, Tito claims his absence was all about business. You know when I think informed business decision Miss Jameson isn’t really the first person that comes to mind.
And when did we amend the man-law to make it okay to get permission from your girlfriend? Look I have to get permission from my wife all the time but at least I have the common sense to lie about it:
“Sorry guys I’d love play poker in a hot tub at Scores but I have to meet a client and get contracts signed.”
Anyone who remembers the stoppage that was Ortiz-Shamrock 2 will remember Dana’s damage control: “We know you hated the ending just as much as Ken did so we’re going to give it to you again and this time we’re going to put it on free TV!” (Like anyone would have paid to see them fight yet again).
In keeping with that tradition of hype first, disappoint later (Wanderlei Silva anyone?) the boys at UFC programming decided to give us an inside look at the bad blood between Dana and Tito with a tell-all conclusion to their saga in an effort to hide the fact that once again, they failed to deliver on a hyped-up fight.
Maybe this time they were doing us a favor. Now do yourselves one and don’t tune in.
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If they show this without the fight happening it will be terrible. Dana will have a black eye without ever fighting.
wait they aren’t goin to fight? I remember reading the post on here that he didn’t show but when i saw the previews i thought there must be a fight to be a show what a waste of time and I hope it had nothin to do with gettin permission from his girlfriend.
It sucks to hear the same info over and over, but this is a business in the end of it all. This show tom. night will bring in more viewer’s than the first episode of TUF 5 watch and see. The sport has gone to hell. It’s commercial now! It still won’t stop me from watching the 3 round exibition, when it goes down….LOL
“He checked with his girlfriend and she said no.”
Once Tito loses to Rashad he will be considered a second tier fighter. At this point he can expect to be dumped by Jenny.
Let’s clear one thing up:
The Fight DID NOT happen, and WILL NOT be aired tomorrow night during the Bad Blood episode.
It is footage that was shot leading up to the event that NEVER HAPPENED.
It’s probably going to show Dana White training and getting prepared for the fight, and Tito pulling out.
My guess is that it is designed to make Tito look foolish, and Dana look like he was game.
Again, DON’T expect to see the boxing match tomorrow. It never happened.
Lord I hope that’s clear enough.
Any chance that they punked us, and the fight will actully take place… maybe it was an exhibition and results didn’t have to get posted? I really don’t want to watch Dana’s training regiment for 2 hrs.
Who do you think would have profited or did profit from this SPIKE feature? To me it looks like Dana is the one that would have or did profit. (I am sure spike paid something)
Now if this was you on the opposite side of Dana…..would you not want to cash it as well? I think most of us would have wanted to cash in BUT I don’t think we would have our “Girl Friend” call the BOSS unless they have or had a strong previous “professional” relationship.
Maybe UFC has another upset in store for us. DANA KNOCKS OUT TITO IN THE 1ST ROUND.
Pretty sad that they are going to AIR something that never happened. Coming soon to SPIKE “UFC SOAPS”
Dana probably screwed Ortiz out of money and now he’s going to make Tito look like a bigger ass than he already is. Sounds to me like great programming—I’m watching it!
Tune in for the last 15 minutes, that will be enough. I am sure it will be Dana in the ring and cricket sounds, then will cut to the Tito Blog entry of “my girl friend/business adviser said i should make money off this. You may recognize her. No, Yoko Ono is Asian.”
[quote comment=”31764″]”He checked with his girlfriend and she said no.”
Once Tito loses to Rashad he will be considered a second tier fighter. At this point he can expect to be dumped by Jenny.[/quote]
It’s not like she has a lot of options either. Some people might test drive a car after the odometer has rolled over, but nobody will buy it.
That car is broken down….you can only drive them so much….
You Guys got to remember; as much as me hype and praise the MMA Fighters, espicially one of the legends who you can say really put it main stream (Tito). They cant just risk getting injured for anything ? When the last time you see Kobe Bryant in a pick up game ? Or Reggie Bush Playing some football at your local park ? They got their Life, Buisness to protect…
[quote comment=”31773″]Let’s clear one thing up:
The Fight DID NOT happen, and WILL NOT be aired tomorrow night during the Bad Blood episode.
It is footage that was shot leading up to the event that NEVER HAPPENED.
It’s probably going to show Dana White training and getting prepared for the fight, and Tito pulling out.
My guess is that it is designed to make Tito look foolish, and Dana look like he was game.
Again, DON’T expect to see the boxing match tomorrow. It never happened.
Lord I hope that’s clear enough.[/quote]
I feel like i got yelled at by my DAd.
I saw Kobe this past Saturday play against some of his fans. He was working some of them. Look at what KOS did with that fan a week before fight with Diego. Give us the Tito/Dana fight
[quote comment=”31811″]
I feel like i got yelled at by my Dad.[/quote]
I know how you feel…this is what I go through on a daily basis working for this maniac…
Is there any proof anywhere that mentions TITO mentioning this fight to be for charity????
[quote comment=”31833″]Is there any proof anywhere that mentions TITO mentioning this fight to be for charity????[/quote]
The whole charity dispute can be read at one of our earlier posts here:
http://mmamania.com/2007/03/28/tito-ortiz-and-dana-white-not-getting-along-again/
Dana probably has a contract obligation with Spike to deliver a half hour surrounding this fight. So I think that’s what is going on, nothing to do with anything else.
Ignore it.
[quote comment=”31829″][quote comment=”31811″]
I feel like i got yelled at by my Dad.[/quote]
I know how you feel…this is what I go through on a daily basis working for this maniac…[/quote]
Sweet, thanks fellas. Running out of options to ensure people realize that this fight isn’t airing tomorrow. Figure the best way was to START SCREAMING and maybe it’ll sink in that way. It’s even more frustrating when I can’t stand the storyline. I want it to go away. Sorry WB. And Jesse, nice of you to show up.
Its no problem mania…..i was just kidding…….I love this site! I think Dana posts on here , maybe he will give us some inside info.
In all probability, this show is only airing because of a contractual obligation to Spike. Does anyone else think that Spike could have passed on this one? Especially since they have the gift of a pay-per-view event this month. No doubt Dana was pissed about the cancellation and wanted this special to air so it would show Tito as an idiot.
Dana needs to remember that he is the head of a company that has built it’s success on the good relationships with its fighters. When Dana starts acting like Vince McMahon, I’m outta here.
For those of which arent from NJ or NY and dont listen to Stern… Scores is a strip joint. Mighty fine one at that.
This is MMA not BOXING!
Tito doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone…he has already secured a spot in the hall of fame for sure. This show is only going to air to make Tito look like a douche when in all rights anyone of us would have done the same thing as Tito.
The only thing I am disappointed in is how Tito just didn’t show up to the weigh-in that was a little disrespectful.
But who knows maybe this is all a giant April Fools Joke!
(Also, Tito is going to make Rashad his Bitch!!)
Tito’s scared of everyone, his boss, chuck, rashad. Dude’s a bitch.
[quote comment=”31935″]This is MMA not BOXING!
Tito doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone…he has already secured a spot in the hall of fame for sure. This show is only going to air to make Tito look like a douche when in all rights anyone of us would have done the same thing as Tito.
quote]
If i had the oppurtunity i would beat the shit out of Dana white and i would pay Him to do it
[quote comment=”31935″]
Tito doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone…he has already secured a spot in the hall of fame for sure. [/quote]
Huh?
[quote comment=”31810″]You Guys got to remember; as much as me hype and praise the MMA Fighters, espicially one of the legends who you can say really put it main stream (Tito). They cant just risk getting injured for anything ? When the last time you see Kobe Bryant in a pick up game ? Or Reggie Bush Playing some football at your local park ? They got their Life, Buisness to protect…[/quote]
I have personally seen Kobe schoolin the so called street ballers on thier court just to prove how good he was
[quote comment=”32119″][quote comment=”31935″]
Tito doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone…he has already secured a spot in the hall of fame for sure. [/quote]
Huh?[/quote]
i was thinkin the same thing HUH?
Doesn’t Tito get enough money? I would pound my boss if given the chance even though i like him.
Tito in Hall of Fame? MMA is new and Tito can’t hold with the new era of MMA. He needs somebody like Dana to beat on so people may begin to respect him again. Even cry-baby Forrest Griffin almost beat his ass and probably would of if it went a few more rounds. Let’s wait until UFC has been around a good 30 years before we secure anybodys spot in hall of fame. The only acception would maybe be Royce Gracie, I could agree he’s secured his legacy. Personally i want to see Dana beat the shit out of “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy”, which in Conan O’brien and I’s opinion is a gay-ass nickname. When he decided to steal the nickname from his ex-pal Tank Abbott, he should of looked around for a cooler name to call himself. The only Tito fight i would like to see right now is Frank Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz 2, and maybe another 3 rounds with Forrest.
Sounds like a it was a setup all along . Smells like a publicity stunt …
wtf i jus wasted one hour of watching Dana White suck dick ..
wat a waste of time.. so the fight is not happening ???
I’m am one pissed off person right now, I was watching this and they didnt even fight!!!
so are they gonna show them fucking fight or not
I usually enjoy UFC promotions, but what a waste of time. After this disgrace I will have to reconsider my interest in UFC…
This is BULL$%!t.. !!!they should not have beefed it up so much like it was going to happen. I waited an HOUR and A HALF watching shit i did in Iraq to get ready for a fight that i already know happens. They need to stop wasting fans time with crap like that and show reruns of tito getting his skull crushed in by Liddel over and over again for and hour and a half!!!!!
OMG i saw this to late and wasted an hour of my life for watching some out of shape wannabe boxer spar and get a boxing license thats it im switching over to pride fuck this bull shit.
what a waiste of time:(
shame on the UFC and Dana White for this tragic waist of time. If there was a contract he should have broken it and dealt with results. It couldnt be worse than waisting an hour and a half of millions of peoples time.
Shame….
I’m sticking with pride from here on out! Done.
What a stupid waste of time, watched this entire soap opera just to find out there was no fight. I’ve been a fan for a long time and this is one of the most disappointing things to ever happen.
Shame on UFC for even airing this garbage.
Tito is a big, blonde puss! I’m pissed also but I’m glad Dana aired this anyway to show what a loser Toto really is. I hope he never gets another opportunity with Dana or UFC.
Tito is a jackoff. I’m not sure how else to say it. He wanted the fight. He made it part of his 2005 contract. I think Tito was scared. Dana took it serious, he trained for almost a year for it, and Dana grew up a boxer. Had Dana beat Tito, Tito would be done. Had he beat Dana, well thats what everyone expected. I think Tito made that a part of his contract in 2005 thinking it wouldn’t happen and then when Dana took it serious Tito had to find an excuse to back out. I think Dana should kick Tito out of the UFC. He is a jerk and does not live up to his promise/agreement. I will never ever watch another payperview with Tito in it.
Whoever said they didn’t want to see Dana train for 2hrs was right. I watched the whole show thinking there was going to be a fight but was I horribly disappointed. This is probably why we get to see the next PPV for free or it could be because theres no title fight in the card. I’m terribly upset with the UFC at the point in time.
Un f***in’ real!!!! Man I wish I would’ve found this site BEFORE this crap. I needed to be in bed two hours ago but this intrigued me so I stayed up to watch…. What?!?!?!? I’m still not sure wtf this was. All this did was make both Dana White and Tito look like asses. I hope they both get thrown a beatin’
[quote comment=”31755″]If they show this without the fight happening it will be terrible. Dana will have a black eye without ever fighting.[/quote]
I am so pissed at Dana. I watched that fucking show for 1 1/2 hours for NOTHING. You so owe me!
That was a complete waste of time seems like a big publicity stunt now that I watched the whole thing. UFC owes us a free event after having us watch that crap
WTF?? I just blew 90 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back watching self-promoting ego-maniac Dana White try and get his fat ass into shape for a fight that never happened? What complete BULLSHIT to even air that piece of shit!!
Regardless of who did or did not get permission, I f’ing wasted an hour of my evening watching fat-a@# dana white spend more than that making himself look good, or trying. That was absolutely the most ridiculous, juvenile display I have ever had the displeasure of watching. I have lost a ton of respect for the UFC, a sport that on its own merit did not need all these ploys and really just embarassed those of us proud of the fact that is was a real “man” sport, lacking two mean talking about how much they ‘hated each other’ blah blah blah here’s my skirt you hurt my feelings now i have to go watch days or our lives, eat ice cream, and feel better about myself. Good god, and I’m a girl! Are there any real men still left out there???!!!!
Now THAT……..pissed me off. What a friggin pussy. Only explanation…is that he was scared. Dana looked pretty good against the 2 heavyweight boxers, has experience, and was in pretty good shape. Tito ran his mouth, and then thought about it. He would of been expected to win easily..but if he didn’t, he would look like a fool. And deep down I don’t think he is as confident in his boxing as he claims. I no longer have ANY respect for him as a fighter. It’s like anything else, if you talk crap, SOMEONE is eventually going to call you on it. And when he got called…..he just didn’t show.
It was a cool build up in the episode that actually made me want to see the fight then they just say the last minute no fight and then end it… damn I thought Tito Ortiz was cool he is just doing it for the money I see… this is dissapointing.
Someone needs to tell Rob that Kobe and Reggie play in the All-Star game and Pro Bowl which are meaningless games in which each of them risk getting injured. It had nothing to do with injuries, cause if Tito can’t last 3 rounds of sparring with Dana White, God forbid he get in the ring with Chuck. Also we know its MMA not Boxing but how much MMA did Chuck use to make him look like a girl the last 2 fights. Tito might wanna take some boxing lessons so he doesn’t get killed on his feet. If I was Dana White I would fire him right now, he made Dana White and the UFC look real bad.
where is tito whats up? bring back vitor belfort to pound dana
i am so f-ing disappointed i stayed in for this fight that didnt even take place and thought tito would win although didnt want him to cocky mother-fer but whatever now the ufc seems like the wwe suckeeeeeeeeee from….35 female dana i wanna talk… tito you wussyyyyyyyyy!! ill kick your ass in a fake set up fight to biotch!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u suck!!!!!
My opinion
Dana spent time and money to get a licence, train and keep his end of the contract.
Tito has a contract. This is in the contract. Dana should sue him for breach of contract and make Tito pay back every cent and all the money Dana had to put out for the licence and training.
If anyone’s as phucking pissed as I am about getting suckered into watching that bullshit tonight on Spike while Dana White jacked himself off for 90 minutes without fighting anybody, let UFC know about it at http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=misc.contact because putting shit like that out for broadcast and hyping it the way they did was phucked UP!
Let Down.
[quote comment=”31810″]You Guys got to remember; as much as me hype and praise the MMA Fighters, espicially one of the legends who you can say really put it main stream (Tito). They cant just risk getting injured for anything ? When the last time you see Kobe Bryant in a pick up game ? Or Reggie Bush Playing some football at your local park ? They got their Life, Buisness to protect…[/quote]
This quote would have made sense had TITO ORTIZ NOT ASKED…NO BEGGED FOR THIS FIGHT!!! Get off Tito’s nuts he PUSSED OUT!!! Tito needs to stop worring about his career, girlfriends advice, and image and start working on getting back to being a man! A man fulfills his obligations especially the one’s he puts on himself. It wasn’t about money when he asked for this fight so why make it an excuse?
I am NO Dana White Fan either but at least he kept his end of the bargain.
So Dana lost: Money, Time and his Spare tire. This bullsh*t show was his and Spike TV’s way of recouping production costs I’d guess.
Tito lost: Dignity, Respect and probably his last real chance of leagaly pounding the sh*t out of his “boss” (and I’m sure he reaaallly wants to right now! - sorry, you had your chance pal).
I lost: 90 minutes of my life.
And yes - I did read all about how this fight didn’t happen - so I have no idea why I expected more than a sucky Dana White propaganda film (You know that “See? Dana’s really just a stand up guy.” - propaganda).
It really was a lose-lose after all: Dana and the LV Boxing Commision got burned (by Tito), Tito gets burned by this whole freggin show, and anyone who watched this BS show got burned.
I stayed up to watch a bunch of crap. This whole buildup was a joke and they probably were never going to fight in the first place. They just talked smack to each other. It was just a way to get our dumb asses to watch it just like a WWF fake show. I think they both agreed they needed to get out of the spar becasue it was just silly and the only way to do it was to have somebody not show up. I’m sure they hate each other but its getting too comercial for me.
Here’s the deal. The reason this whole show is airing even though no fight happened, is because Spike shot all the footage and they didn’t want to just let that go to waste. I don’t blame them. When you think about it, it was a 1 - 1/2 hour show which was probably 20 hours of original footage. That is a lot of time and effort not to mention the costs involved with a crew following Dana White around during this time and interviewing people. While it’s not the best ending in the world, there is no reason Spike shouldn’t air it. There are a lot of fans out there that don’t know what really happened with that fight and this show gives them the info they are lacking.
Some people will say that this was a way for Dana to get at Tito but when you watch the show, they did a good job of showing both sides of the story. They gave both people’s opinion on what happened and then the facts about what happened with the lead-up and the non-existent fight.
Anyone who thinks this was all just a publicity stunt sure hasn’t watched much of Tito. The guy is a great coach but he is a schmuck that acts like he is 5 years old when it comes to real life.
So I just finished watching “Bad Blood: White vs. Ortiz”. It was an hour and a half of Dana White playing the roll of the underdog and Tito Ortiz looking like a dick. Yes, Zuffa produced it, so maybe that’s why White looked good and Ortiz looked like a douche. Or maybe Dana really did work hard at training for the fight and Tito bitched out. If anyone has some concrete answers as to the reality behind this business, please let us know. In the meantime, I will take my five minutes to speculate.
Dana looked cut at weigh in, clocking in at 197 lbs. As far as I can tell, those really were the commissioners from the NSAC (http://boxing.nv.gov/commishs.htm). Very pissed commissioners. I think it’s possible White took the time and effort to get into shape and have a camera crew following him around taping his pudgy 37 year old ass get whipped into shape all as a publicity move. Possible, but not very probable. What’s the upshot for White, the UFC or Zuffa? Viewers want fights. No matter how much you may like or hate either Tito or Dana, ninety minutes of them with no fight at the end is bad business. It encourages viewers to watch Pride or K1 (or maybe even… Boxing!). For my part, I was flipping back and forth to a soccer match. Soccer. That right there should indicate the low level of excitement this show generated in my household.
I also don’t think the Nevada State Athletic Commission would allow their name to be dragged into this thing unless they thought it was genuine. Neither do I don’t believe that White would want to make fools of the NSAC, as they are the governing authority for “high-profile venues like the MGM Grand and the Taj Mahal” (http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/11283) just for a little PR. I really want to believe that White and Zuffa were obligated in some way to Spike for an hour and a half of Tito vs. White.
All that being said, here’s my point. I’m as huge a fan as the next guy of MMA. I agree with several of the previous posters; the second this turns into WWE/ECW/TWA/POS I’m done with the UFC, and so are a healthy number of my fellow fans. White has shown too much business savvy in his running of the UFC, including the “debut of former PRIDE superstar Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, the emergence of several Ultimate Fighter graduates as bona fide title contenders and the recent purchase of PRIDE by the Fertittas” (http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/11283) to not know this. I think the fight/sparing match was real. I think Tito screwed Dana on it. I think Dana was pissed. My guess is he took the footage that they had filmed for the behind-the-scenes leading up to Tito vs. White and turned it into “Fuck You Tito” aka “Bad Blood”.
Why? Maybe it’s just the next step in the Tito/White pissing match, but I don’t think so. My guess is that as soon as his contract is up, Tito is gone from the UFC, and “Bad Blood” is Dana’s way of ending all the “Tito got screwed” talk before it starts. Instead, talk is going to be “Tito wouldn’t even fight Dana. He was a bitch. I glad he’s gone.”
When you get handed a lemon, make lemonade.
One final note. To all the posters who bitch about the UFC being Mixed Martial Arts and not boxing and that therefore there shouldn’t be any boxing in the UFC (Specifically, posts like [quote post=”1778″]This is MMA not BOXING![/quote]), piss off. Boxing IS a martial art.
From wiktionary.com:
“martial art (plural martial arts)
1. Commonly, any of several fighting styles which contain systematized methods of training for combat, both armed and unarmed; often practiced as a sport, e.g. boxing, karate, judo, wrestling, or Muay Thai.”
And in my not so humble opinion, the finer points of boxing are all too often overlooked in MMA. If you disagree, go watch any Ali fight on ESPN Classic, and then re-watch the Couture vs. Sylvia fight. There is the perfect example of great boxing (a la Ali) allowing the older smaller fighter to kick the shit out of the bigger younger fighter.
Peace.
Can anyone explain to me why the last few UFC events, and the up and coming UFC 70 are not being held in Vegas? Was this supposed to be a big joke against the Nevada gaming commision?
This was some real bullshit. Fuck the UFC for even putting this on TV. One of the biggest wastes of an hour and half I have ever been a part of. It seems like the UFC is disappointing more times than not lately.
[quote comment=”31764″]”He checked with his girlfriend and she said no.”
Once Tito loses to Rashad he will be considered a second tier fighter. At this point he can expect to be dumped by Jenny.[/quote]
TRUE.AFTER HE LOSEES TO SHAD THEN JJ WILL LET HIM FIGHT DANA FOR SOME MONEY
This SUCKED! I wish we had seen this board last night BEFORE we wasted our time watching the hour and a half of Dana training! Spike should have been HONEST with the Viewers and not HYPED it as an ACTUAL FIGHT! SO NOT HAPPY With SPIKE or with UFC.
k what exactly happened guys? i was watchin the show and i fell asleep n’ didn wake till today..the last thing i remember seein was tito trainin at big bear.. there was no fight? wtf?
is it schedualed for another date/ or cancelled all together? what kinda stupid publicity scam is this.
What a waste of time! Who wants to watch Dana White Train! I would rather they talk about how much money he has or an hour and a half of the ring girls, but come on! I love UFC, but they just lost me for a while. Tito is a pussy, just show up and take it easy on Dana and everyone would have been happy. I know why the PPV cost so much to pay for the Nice car a Jet! Dana is an ASS!
Unfu*king believable, I too wish I had found this site earlier, although I fell asleep it was so boring and found this site looking for results!!!
Hold up on the girl jokes, Im a woman & I’ve been watching these fights since I didn’t even know who the fuck Dana White was, sure he’s done alot for the U.F.C.-dollar wise and that is good. These fights were way better before they became the mainsteam,everybody’s-a-badass&loves-the-UFC-anyway! What ever happen to them pounding the hell outta eachother? Now a days it’s broken up before too much blood!(Huerta vs.Garcia-now that was a fight!) If Dana White wants to really do something he needs to work on getting these fights legal in more places, like Detroit, for instance, with all of the casinos and newer venues here (yes, I’m a motercity badgirl).Forget about trying to turn this into the WWE or the IFL that shit sucks, a true fan isn’t about the hype, we’re about the fight! I know the IFL has good fighters and I kinda like how they have teams, but other than that it’s all show!
I think I’ll stick to King of the Cage, Pride, and even Bodog is better than what UFC is turning into!
Oh, I am pissed. I just lost a lot of respect for the UFC and Spike. I don’t care to treated like an idiot thanks.
[quote comment=”32798″]I usually enjoy UFC promotions, but what a waste of time. After this disgrace I will have to reconsider my interest in UFC…[/quote]
I’m so pissed!! This bullshit is a disgrace! I love UFC but I’m not interested in all the bitchy “he said she said” bullshit. I tune in to watch guys get pounded not to watch a soap opera. What Tito and Dana did was an insult to the fans of UFC and to real fighters who take this sport to heart and dedicate thier lives to giving people what they want…Action! I hope this type of bullshit does repeat itself. Dana needs to stick with what he knows; promoting UFC and lining his pockets. By the way, did anyone notice his potbelly?
First I would like to say that that show was BS. Tito should have shown up what a puss… Tito has gotten way to big headed no pun intended. Dana White and Zuffa have done great things for the UFC and MMA. When it comes to Tito its al about the money and the guy is not the champ. I completly understand why they showed this program. Tito hyped it up and ran away. Now I understand why Ken S. hated him so much. It doesn’t matter if you are a Tito fan ( Like i was ) or not we got to see his true colors and, no one should be pissed at Dana White, Zuffa, Spike TV, or the UFC the problem is Tito and his ego.
Second the reason the UFC was bought by Zuffa is because they were going under and there was only a few citys that would allow them to fight because it was a danger to the fighters. The rules that are currently in place help to make sure people don’t get seriously injured. I have been a fan from the begining and cuntinue to do so. I think Dana White, Zuffa and the UFC do a great job with entertaining the fans and grow the buisness. Ask any MMA fighter out there and the UFC is where they want to be. Just look at the turn out for the TUF auditions.
What a flipping Joke!!!! After watching for an hour and 15 minutes of Dana Sweating his ass off — I was still thinking that maybe this training crap is taking so long because the fight only last 1 minute. I lost respect for spike and ufc.
I can only hope since spike sucks that the new tv channel the “fight network” will be honest!!
This was complete crap, I didn’t read this website first, Does anyone have Zuffa’s mailing address or Dana’s email. This is complete crap that they would waste 90 minutes of my time to have no fight. This should have never been aired ever.
They keep pulling this crap and having the weak ultimate fighter fights and they are going to have a hard time getting people to tune into their televised events.
haha man I wish I would have found this site as well…I had to work so I didnt watch the footage until today and was pretty upset that it didnt go down.
Im pissed but im not all flipping out against the UFC, I believe that Ortiz is really that childish to back out (like standing up to a bully only to have them back down) so it sucks White actually took it seriously (cant complain about being in better shape) and the Huntington Beach Bitch Boy bows out with some sketchy reasoning.
And to the person who mentioned the NSGC and the fights not being in Vegas…I would think theyre trying to get UFC out there more and staying in one places doenst allow for that and also it gives more fans the chance to experience it live
uggghhh! add me to the pissed list. here’s an idea.. since tito likes acting perhaps he should become a porn star - then jenna could really take control of his career
Unbelievable, what a complete waste of time. I used to respect Dana White for what he has done with the UFC, but after an hour and a half of listening to him blow smoke up his own hoo-hoo, I have lost all respect.
Yes Tito is a chump and only cares about the money and is on the verge of being washed up (Sureal Life is next). But Dana is a bigger chump for making an hour and a half show about him doing everything right. BS. He’s going to keep pushing the hype until he turns himself into Vince McMahon and complete ruins the UFC. Somebody else needs to run the show now. Dana’s gotta go!
Boy do I feel like an idiot. 90 minutes of my life wasted. They could of covered this in half an hour. I think most of the fighters are pricks already and now I think Dana is a prick too. If you are a pro you shouldn’t need to hate the other guy to kick the crap out of him. On the flip side reality is that just because you hate someone doesn’t mean you get to kick the crap out of him. The least they could of done was say at the outset that the fight wasn’t going to happen. Nope instead they LIED and said it was going to happen. While I am bashing Dana and the UFC, is anyone else appalled at the bunch of banty roosters and rabid chihuahua’s on the latest Ultimate Fighter season? 55 minutes of posturing and trash talking followed by a one or two minute fight. One last bitch, they need to let the fights go a little longer, too many early ref stopages.
Okay I see I’m not the only one extremely pissed about last night. What complete bullshit! Dana said last night that this wasn’t promotional…the f**k it wasn’t. My boyfriend kept saying all the way through the show that Tito’s a punk… I was sticking up for him. Now?.. I still don’t think he’s a punk. I think he’s a pussy!! And Dana’s even more of a jerk-off for getting us pumped up for a fight that was never gonna happen. Honestly, they’re probably laughing their asses off at us right now. They suckered us in, got ratings and maded a shit load of money.
this was just a publicity stunt. dana is the “don king” of mma. he should be fired and tito should lose his contract. let him go fight in bodog for $12 a match. they are making a mockery of this great sport. fuck them both.
[quote comment=”32836″]My opinion
Dana spent time and money to get a licence, train and keep his end of the contract.
Tito has a contract. This is in the contract. Dana should sue him for breach of contract and make Tito pay back every cent and all the money Dana had to put out for the licence and training.[/quote]
I agree 110%, Dana went way out of his way to do this because it was in a written legally binding contract….. or was it?
[quote comment=”33113″]haha man I wish I would have found this site as well…I had to work so I didnt watch the footage until today and was pretty upset that it didnt go down.
Im pissed but im not all flipping out against the UFC, I believe that Ortiz is really that childish to back out (like standing up to a bully only to have them back down) so it sucks White actually took it seriously (cant complain about being in better shape) and the Huntington Beach Bitch Boy bows out with some sketchy reasoning.
And to the person who mentioned the NSGC and the fights not being in Vegas…I would think theyre trying to get UFC out there more and staying in one places doenst allow for that and also it gives more fans the chance to experience it live[/quote]
yeah i’m upset about the whole ordeal. but its not the UFC’s fault that the so called “bad boy” bitched out. i’ll keep watching just as long as tito is involved. i have zero respect for him, which seems to be the same amount tito has for the UFC. and yes if the UFC is going to go real big it can’t just stay there in Vegas, its gotta get out make the rounds and keep pulling more fans in…
With grammar and spelling like that, Tito shouldn’t ever expect to be taken seriously or come across as intelligent when he posts anything that he has written by himself. It is a good thing for him that you don’t need high school education to be rich.
So the fact that Spike spent some cash following Dana around on his Rocky montage means that we should be deceived into watching 90 minutes with no punchline? BULLSHIT. If you screw up at work you eat the loss - its the cost of doing business. Even a McDonalds employee isn’t (probably) going to try to feed you some pie that fell on the floor. Exactly what Spike and Zuffa did though.
Note the fact that there was a conspicuous lack of notice regarding the fact that the show would not end with a fight? They deliberately screwed over UFC fans because they knew they could get away with it. Fuck Zuffa and the UFC.
[quote comment=”31783″]Dana probably screwed Ortiz out of money and now he’s going to make Tito look like a bigger ass than he already is. Sounds to me like great programming—I’m watching it![/quote]
Tito is an ass. He has been fighting for how long….and needs to ask his girlfriend for permission. Thats F&*$ed. He should not have run his mouth if he was not going fight. He should stick to UFC fighters and try and focus on winning his belt back!
After seeing this I have way more respect for Dana and no respect for Tito. Don’t get me wrong I did want to see the fight but for all of you lazy-asses who think this was a waste of your time think about what Dana had to go through. He is a businessman making a crazy amount of money sitting on his butt. Training his ass off was the last thing he wanted to go through. I think it is more than fair for Dana to air this for an hour and a half. He trained for over six months to prepare for this and wanted some recognition for his training which is absolutly understandable. You were forced to sit on your nice fluffy couch enjoying a beer for a hour and a half and were mad that there was no fight!? BOO HOO im gonna cry about it! Dana was ready for that fight. Think about it…..Do you think Dana was happy that Tito pussed out? If it was anyone of you of course you would have aired it to show that you lived up to your end of the contract.
This just shows what a dumbass Tito is for having that in his contract. Dana had nothing to lose, he is expected to get his ass knocked out. I’m sure Tito was aware of this only after someone had given him this information. The little respect I had left for Tito was all lost after I saw this. First he starts dating Jenna, and now this….. I think whats sad about the whole thing is he’s a professional fighter and his girlfriend has been hit by more guys than he has.
90 minutes of what….i give dana props though tito is a “big blonde bitch” and i now have so little respect for him, team punishment is goin downhill fast…thanks for ufc 70 for free though dana! anyone dissin dana white is a fuckin idiot look at how far he has brought the ufc and mma along in the us show some respect
UFC is turning going straight WWE, I’m not in it. Pride is getting my money from here on out.
I know this won’t get to Dana and I know that even if it did, it wouldn’t make a difference. But, Bad Blood was a disaster.
An 1.5 wasted for nothing as guests sat waiting to see a fight. I understand that certain things are not in your control, but this could have been avoided.
I’m not sure what the UFC thinks they gain by not being up-front with viewers about the fight being canceled. There was plenty of time to make an announcement. After sitting though the ego trip, I can only assume at this point that by letting it play out as you did, the intentions were to make Tito look bad, which it does. But it made UFC and Dana by handling it as they did.
No fight guys? Then say so and show some highlights. Who wants to see Dana sweat for 1.5, drive his Ferrari and fly around in a chartered jet so we could watch him duck half-hearted jabs in his hotel suite? Who wants to hear that he needs to train 2 hours a day, yet he “doesn’t have two hours a day to give” because he is so busy with running the UFC.
Dana mentions that Tito forgot his roots, I think the same can now be said about the UFC and Dana. Sure Dana is rich and the UFC has reached an all-time high in popularity. But after watching Bad Blood, it’s obvious that you’ve forgot why.
It’s because of the fans — and without us you’re in the same boat as Don King and boxing. You really dropped the ball and left loyal fans hanging.
But do you care?
So, I haven’t seen it yet. Going to watch the replay tonight. The fight never happend?
Seriously that really blew I waited all bloody day to watch that stinkin fight and nothing..nothing…come on UFC lets not get all WWE screw the drama. Id watch bloody soap oprahs in the day time if I wanted to watch that crap. I agree with what someone else said about getting some free fights to watch.
Here’s what I sent the UFC media department, wonder if they’ll read it…
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Alright, first off I’d like to say I’ve been a fan of the UFC for many years now, and have enjoyed what Dana White and the Fertitta brothers have done for the sport. BUT last night when Bad Blood: White vs Oritz aired and I sat through a goddamn hour and a HALF of bullshit and lame commercials, just to see no one fight and credits roll I couldn’t pick my jaw up off the floor. You people seriously thought this was a good f*cking idea!? I would’ve been pissed had the show been an HOUR long Dana White gets fat then gets not-so-fat training session, but an hour and a half is inexcusable! That’s like sitting through Dude Where’s My Car all over again.
I’m not the only one, I’m sure you’ve received a lot of complaints so far and you’re going to get more. You’ve pissed off a lot of fans with this over-hyped WWE-esque bullshit. Seriously it was hyped for 2 weeks on TV and months off the air. You make me want to stop watching the UFC altogether and I will for a long time until you prove to me and the rest of the fans you’re f*cking legit and not a bunch of stupid pussies. Good day.
Jason, don’t even bother watching it. I recorded it on DVR and purposefully stayed away from all MMA news all day to avoid spoiling the action. I’m an idiot.
CAN ANYONE SAY WWE! I guess the UFC will be scripted from now on. Shame on you Dana. I think that for this obvious publicity stunt, you need to go full contact with Chuck Liddel and get your cunt kicked in for 5 minutes.
But thats just my opinion.
This was a total croc of shit. I can’t believe that Dana Whit e and the ufc execs would waste air time and the fans time with this big build up leading to nothing not a damn thing.I am very dissapointed with the ufc it sounds like they are becoming another form of soap opera like wrestling.Dana White or Vince Mcmahon after bad blood what’s the difference
Why is everybody against Dana and Zuffa? Tito is the one that did not hold up his end of the contract. If Tito has anybody fights left on his contract, Dana should tell him he will not get paid for the fight.
can any one please tell me why in the pfuck they put this bullshit on tv as a fight i have seen more viloent cartoons what in the pfuck happend to the ufc
I felt like I lost 90 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back. They should have cut it shorter since there was no fight in the end. Tito is still a punk either way.
This was one of the biggest waste of time since the ortiz/shamrock fights. I think Dana and spike should do a main event for free again to pay the fans back for this sham.
Tito if you ever read this, bitch slap Dana for thinking of this. That will make it a little better.
man, I’m happy I found this after watching only about 20 minutes….but dam…if I waited for almost 2 hours for a fight and they didn’t have it?…wtf is wrong with spike, ufc and the rest of the people involved… What they should have done is had a giant disclaimer right at the start so people would know whats up ahead of time and not be so pissed off….
Everybody is against Dana and Zuffa because they led everyone to believe there would be a fight. There should have been a disclaimer at the beginning of the show that said there will actually be NO FIGHTING in this show. It is merely a documentary.
Screw the UFC. PRIDE and IFL even at least have fights. UFC=WWE…just a bunch of drama.
Tito Ortiz is the biggest pussy on the planet. He says on his official website that he called off the fight because he wasn’t going to make any money.
Listen to him babble, Tito says…”Dana (White) says that they are not going to shoot the fight (for PPV) or cover it in anyway. So this was a real lose, lose situation for me. I lost out on money for appearances. Now I was losing out on promotion and big dollars for the PPV. He didn’t want to cut me in on the deal. So as a business man I couldn’t do the fight.”
He was the one of demanded he could fight Dana in the first place…what a pussy. He said over and over he just wanted to punch Dana in the face and see this grudge come to a reality. In reality he was scared of Dana White.
Tito Ortiz should change his name to “The Huntington Beach PUSSY”
[quote comment=”32810″]I’m sticking with pride from here on out! Done.[/quote]
**NEWS FLASH**
UFC bought PRIDE
Here I am watching the crappy show: I was watching the clock… 15 minutes yet and no fight… must be a quick one…. Tito must knoc him out in 10 seconds… running out of time. OH MY GOD the show is over?! No fight?! WTF?
[quote comment=”31755″]If they show this without the fight happening it will be terrible. Dana will have a black eye without ever fighting.[/quote]
I love UFC However does anyone get the feeling its edging towards WWF?? Please god no!!!
Someone used a great line “…after picking my jaw up of the floor…”, that is exactly how I felt after sitting through this “SPIKE” aired event. Truly pissed off at the whole bunch!
Give me 30 minutes of that and I would still be pissed!!
I’m even pissed that SPIKE would air this. A real low for all UFC owners. I really hope Dana White and the higher-ups realize how many fans they pissed off over this. Anyway, it’s just good to vent and I’m glad I’m not the only one pissed that I wasted over an hour on a pile-O-shit tv show.
I’m not big on UFC but the boyfriend is, so like a good girlfriend I got cought up in all the hype. I watched that show last night without knowing the outcome, waiting patiently to watch Ortiz get his ass kicked, and nothing. I was sooooooo angry I couldn’t sleep. And to find out it was a girlfriend thing. Maybe he should have thought about that before promoting it. Maybe he should have thought about that before many people went to great lengths to make his wishes happen. I have lost what last little respect I have for Tito Ortiz!!!!!
I skimmed through the posts and haven’t seen what I think REALLY happened.
I don’t think Tito pussed out. And I don’t think his girlfriend was the reason he didn’t fight.
After trying to get Dana to back out of the fight, I think his partners went to Tito and told him he has to back out or he’ll never fight in the UFC again.
Think about it: the show made a big point about one of Dana’s partners phoning him every 10 minutes to quit the fight, and Dana telling them, “a deal is a deal”.
There was no upside to this fight for the UFC. If Dana gets hurt, his partners lose the guy who’s running the show for however long. If he only gets beat up but not really hurt, it still doesn’t reflect well on the UFC. And it’s 10 times worse if Tito gets beat up: after all, what does that say about UFC fighters in general?
I think they concluded that, if they can’t get Dana to quit, then they have to get Tito to back out. And, they have more leverage over Tito.
I think they went to Tito and told him he has to be a no-show at the weighin, and to make up some excuse why he didn’t show. Dana may run the show, but they’re the money guys, and Tito knows that. If they tell Dana to expel Tito, especially with the way Dana feels about him right now, then he had to figure he would be back to wrapping cars around trees.
Just incase anyone missed the fight that didn’t happen…SPIKE TV is airing an encore so you can see the fight NOT happen again!!
Kind of funny…as I see the previews for this “encore” they say the fight is for “no money, no belt, just pride” Whatever! I guess that’s total BS seeing as Tito made it very clear it’s all about $$$. So much for pride.
[quote comment=”31764″]”He checked with his girlfriend and she said no.”
Once Tito loses to Rashad he will be considered a second tier fighter. At this point he can expect to be dumped by Jenny.[/quote]
lol
Its sad really when a Fighter loses what he was born with. His ability to fight for just fighting. He is not a fucking business man. Tito was built a fighter and now he is losing it in the lime light. He is a pussy because Dana was training hard and he turned his back as to not risk injury for his upcoming fight against Evans. What about the fighters who fight 2-5 times a night in tournament? You’re fucking telling me you are afraid to get hurt when you back out of something like that. And what the hell? Who the fuck does Jenna think she is? She is a porn star! Fuck her, and not literally, She has no right to get involved in this. Fighting is not a porn starts game. Stay the fuck out of our world bitch!
[quote comment=”33344″]UFC is turning going straight WWE, I’m not in it. Pride is getting my money from here on out.[/quote]
Interesting comment since they are owned by the same people now.
I have watched this new one called IFL. It seems pretty good. Its basically UFC before they sold out. Its fighters who are there for love of fighting, not to be a part of a soap opera.
And what the hell? Who the fuck does Jenna think she is? She is a porn star! Fuck her, and not literally, She has no right to get involved in this. Fighting is not a porn starts game. Stay the fuck out of our world bitch![/quote]
wow “our world”? that sounds obsessive dosn’t it? what are you a stockholder?
My billshut detector just buried the needle. Yeah I’m mad that I was misled too. That was a big insult from Spike and friends.
But I’m not buying the “tito pussed out” story. Whenever I hear a story as one-sided as what I just watched, I know I’m missing something important.
Seriously, something’s fishy. Definitely not the whole story being told here. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Ikon wasn’t dead on.
Think about it. Tito noshows the weigh in without saying anything to anyone. What? Since when does Tito *not* run his mouth and make excuses? Hell, his silence is a really good argument FOR a conspiracy theory. The boy can’t keep his trap shut without someone forcing him.
Other random thoughts:
Probably not the smartest remark to bash Jenna’s money and business sense. It’s the world’s oldest profession for a reason, and the woman made a killing doing it and now she’s making an even bigger killing running her own production shop. Feel all the contempt you want for her, but that woman f*cks her way to the bank every week and don’t you doubt it.
Also, was anyone else really pissed at the NSAC for butting in the way it did? The way I saw it, they called Dana and made him jump through a ton of stupid hoops. Then they told him that he needed their permission. Then they made him sweat bullets while they dragassed around making their almighty Decision. And THEN they had the nerve to bitch at Dana for wasting their time WHEN THEY WEREN’T INVITED TO BEGIN WITH.
As Benjamin Franklin once said, “I hope all upper management catches syphillis from a rodent and rots in perdition for eternity.”
The End.
I had the misfortune of actually watching the stupid show and Tito says out of his own mouth in an older interview that it’s not about money or publicity or anything except fighting Dana so that they can be friends again…you can’t believe shit this guy says…he’s like a schizo
I can’t believe I was duped into watching Bad Blood: Dana White vs. Tito I knew it wouldn’t be a real fight but I thought they would entertain us a little with White getting smacked around a little but this was ridicules! I am a pretty big fan of the UFC but after watching the whole 90 minutes of Bad Blood to find out that they weren’t even going to fight wasting my time (and as close as we are to taxes being due) I’m ticked. I have totally lost all respect for Dana White thinking we are that interested in him to watch him talk for a hour and half and with all the F bombs he throws out trying to sound all tough (ridicules). I don’t know if I’ll be able to watch any UFC for a little while not until they get rid of this WWF/WCW crap. No seriously I’m pissed we pay good money for the pay-per view matches and to be treated like our time doesn’t matter and we’ll watch what ever you throw out, I’m pissed!
[quote comment=”32547″]Tito in Hall of Fame? MMA is new and Tito can’t hold with the new era of MMA. He needs somebody like Dana to beat on so people may begin to respect him again. Even cry-baby Forrest Griffin almost beat his ass and probably would of if it went a few more rounds. Let’s wait until UFC has been around a good 30 years before we secure anybodys spot in hall of fame. The only acception would maybe be Royce Gracie, I could agree he’s secured his legacy. Personally i want to see Dana beat the shit out of “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy”, which in Conan O’brien and I’s opinion is a gay-ass nickname. When he decided to steal the nickname from his ex-pal Tank Abbott, he should of looked around for a cooler name to call himself. The only Tito fight i would like to see right now is Frank Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz 2, and maybe another 3 rounds with Forrest.[/quote]
I love the people who have started watching MMA a year ago trying to pretend they know what they’re talking about. Guys like Tito are plank holders for the “new” MMA. 10 years ago, most of you people weren’t even here! Isn’t Frank Shamrock washed up/retired?
Other than self doubt, Tito Oritz is a monster. Couple good fights for him and he’s able to beat anyone. Just look at his prodigy’s and you’ll see how good he is.
The problem is that Tito doesn’t have much class and it shows in his frequent and rediculous brain farts. He can’t seem to figure out what side of the bread his butter is on…
P.S> Jenna BUSTED HER ASS making her money…you guys shouldn’t be blowing all over her like that.
[quote comment=”33916″]I skimmed through the posts and haven’t seen what I think REALLY happened.
I don’t think Tito pussed out. And I don’t think his girlfriend was the reason he didn’t fight.
After trying to get Dana to back out of the fight, I think his partners went to Tito and told him he has to back out or he’ll never fight in the UFC again.
Think about it: the show made a big point about one of Dana’s partners phoning him every 10 minutes to quit the fight, and Dana telling them, “a deal is a deal”.
There was no upside to this fight for the UFC. If Dana gets hurt, his partners lose the guy who’s running the show for however long. If he only gets beat up but not really hurt, it still doesn’t reflect well on the UFC. And it’s 10 times worse if Tito gets beat up: after all, what does that say about UFC fighters in general?
I think they concluded that, if they can’t get Dana to quit, then they have to get Tito to back out. And, they have more leverage over Tito.
I think they went to Tito and told him he has to be a no-show at the weighin, and to make up some excuse why he didn’t show. Dana may run the show, but they’re the money guys, and Tito knows that. If they tell Dana to expel Tito, especially with the way Dana feels about him right now, then he had to figure he would be back to wrapping cars around trees.[/quote]
I was at UFC 69 in Houston, and aside from the upsets, we actually caught a few bloody sideshow altercations in the stands. We also saw Ortiz and what looked to be like White verbally going at it. Did this have anything to do with all this bullshit going on? I agree with a previous poster, they should show a free PPV event to make up for this crap.
I asked my wife if I could watch it and she said “No”…
Dana White v. Cro Cop, no gloves. Thats the only way that punk cocksucker can make up for that debacle.
Kobe and Reggie stll get paid for a Pro Bowl game so let’s squash that right now. I wouldn’t be ready to risk injury for nothin either. Especially when the UFC doesn’t cover their fighters with insurance. They pay it themselves. Let’s face somethin else, Jenna is rich x 1000 so she’s not stupid. Even if he did ask her…..so what! Dana did this to make himself look good when we all know he’s a cheap bastard lookin to make the buck for himself. He may act like he cares but in the end……he only cares about himself and how good he looks. He’s the white Don King. Too bad you just can’t see it.
[quote comment=”32810″]I’m sticking with pride from here on out! Done.[/quote]
To bad he owns pride.
Tito is a FAG. When he kisses that sperm dumpster Jenna, he tastes a “cock”tail of Jizz. FAGGOT.
From the beginning I TOLD my b/f this was never going to happen. I knew it was just a ploy, know why? It sounded very very familiar to me, almost like a big cash grab and a storyline right out of “RAW”, anyone remember a little Stone Cold vs. Vince McMahon. Strange that with all the sucess of the UFC that they would resort to such a weird match considering its so HOT right now, this could have waited until all the bandwagon jumpers got the hell off again and we resumed “getting it on” as it should be done. But, hey, to break up some of the seriousness and perhaps give real fans a laugh, through some shit like this together. But Now? Why? I certainly hope there is no more of this crap. The UFC has real class. Dont fuck it up.
The Real Sinnamingrrl.
In the birth of such a great sport, first and foremost, I would have to agree and support Mr. Holland’s assessment regarding the integrity of the sport:
[quote post=”1778″]The show is an in-depth look at the exhibition boxing match Dana White and Tito Ortiz were set to have on March 24 after many years of name calling and finger pointing because as we’ve all learned, fighting solves everything.[/quote]
As is, MMA is all ready facing the same stigmas of any other fighting sport whereby implications of questionable integrity of the events are starting to be raised. At the one hand, one could argue that the UFC’s pseudo-monopoly status would permit it to manipulate outcomes for the sake of profits. At the other hand, fighters or camps could collude with amongst themselves to keep or enter a certain ranking status that will guarantee bigger paychecks for longer periods of time. This has been already well document by Steve Levitt (Freakonomics) in the case of sumo wrestling. The trail of this conversation should be easy to predict. WHAT SPORT WOULD BE THE MOST EXEMPLARY CASE OF FRAUD?
YOU GUESSED IT … PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING.
Interesting enough, if you look at the history of wrestling, you would find that professional wrestling was actual real wrestling (as opposed to WWE) without predetermined outcomes. Throughout it has undergone several iterations of mutation (in my opinion for the worse) and ended up where it is today. One thing is having a fighter woefully throwing away a fight. An even worse thing is the president/owner or any other administrative personnel fight the very fighters they are supposed to manage. Case in point: Vince McMahon. For the sake of reputability it could be argue that a few other CEO’s are doing it too. The Donald did, right? … Honestly, how reputable is the Donald?, really.
I think this fight not happening saves MMA reputability. If MMA takes that turn, it would be impossible to reinstate its prestige back to its optimal level. I couldn’t care less if either Dana or Tito won, because the UFC at large would lose (along with fans craving really, as opposed to staged, fighting. Everybody has a competitive advantage, something that distinguishes them from everybody else. Dana is a heck of a fighting promoter, businessman, and front figure of a booming industry. Tito is perhaps one of the most explosive, strong and dedicated fighters. I wouldn’t want to see Tito running the UFC anymore than I would want to see Dana lacing up for a fight. To paraphrase Dana, “certain people are born with a fighter instinct … that’s what they are born to do and do it very well … I discovered a long time ago I was not one of them”. Dana is a great competitor and victorious man in many aspects of life. A being a great fighter, however, is not his competitive advantage.
Let’s keep the sanctity of the sport as long as we can.
The quote presented in the previous posting is supposed to be:
[quote post=”1778″]What happens inside the Octagon is a sport with honor and integrity. Using your skill and ability to settle differences outside of the cage in the name of MMA is like using a Louisville Slugger to smash a pitcher’s mailbox after striking out in the World Series in the name of baseball.[/quote]
QED
Being stationed in Okinawa, my television is two weeks behind. I’m actually watching the damned thing right now…
I did a search to see if the episode included the fight; obviously it doesn’t. What a load of crap.
Your talking about being in the octigon and using mma yeah that is UFC fight, But was’t this dana white tito ortiz fight supposed to be boxing rules?
[quote comment=”32811″]What a stupid waste of time, watched this entire soap opera just to find out there was no fight. I’ve been a fan for a long time and this is one of the most disappointing things to ever happen.
Shame on UFC for even airing this garbage.[/quote]
you cant blame ufc or dana himself for this… blame little bitch ortiz who cant even show up for his weigh in… all he had to do was fight an amateur/business man… he is nothin but a pussy… plus PRIDE aint nearly as exciting as ufc
I would rather see them do a standup fight in the octagon with a no takedown rule. Just trading blows with UFC santioned golves. I just want to see Dana fight someone. I dont care if its Layla Ali as his opponent, I just want to see him fight.