BEDLAM IN TEXAS!

matt serra beat georges ass i cant beliene it!! biggest upset in ufc history matt gave him a hard left hook bam george fell down and matt pounched on his ass go serra go!!! diego looked like shit and josh got the victory wow what a night!!!

Im in disbelief. This has to be the biggest upset in the history of MMA. Matt Serra UFC Welterwieght Champion. WOW

anyone know where I can find this fight online?

Check out the upset poll. I couldn’t even believe that 16% thought this would happen. Man, I can’t pick fights for shit. GSP should have thown a spinning back fist. LOL

holy shit what a night, upset, upset and upsets!!! still hate kos!!! worst fight of the year!!!

I was not surprised, honestly everyone was doubting Serra, check the UFC Fight Poll on their offical website. I think it was a 93 percentile to a 7. I think I was the whole entire 7 percent because I voted countless amount of times. Serra won for several reasons, he took the fight serious unlike his counter part Travis Lutter. I never thought it would be a 1st round KO, I thought he would have won similar to a Randy Couture with a Decision. Serra won because his back was against the wall and everyone doubted him, if he lost he probably is out of UFC and back into his home in New York.
You fight for what you love, and Serra had more love and a lot more to lose than St.Pierre. I smell a sick sick sick smell. I smell..
Koscheck vs. Serra =(
Koscheck as champion makes me puke.

that welterweight belt is going around like crazy

congrats to matt serra great fight.nightmare 19-1 sweeeet

I bet Hueghes wants to be the first to get a shot at the new champ. and more than likely Dana will give it to him.

HOLY F*CKIN SHIT!!!

MY BOY WON! Oh man, I was torn, I’m in love with GSP but Serra’s from my hometown. What’s a girl to do? I couldn’t figure out who to root for. But DAMN!!!! I think my sister and I were the only two in the bar rooting for Serra. The roars were defening. And I’m still torn. Poor GSP. Way to lose your belt the first time defending it, and in the first round. Must be heartbreaking.

AAAAAHHHH!!! OMFG!!!! SERRA WON!!!!!

I am PROUD TO SAY THAT I SAID MATT WAS GONNA WIN ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. BUT 1ST ROUND KO NEVER. KOSCHECK AND DIEGO BOTH WERE HORRIBLE KOSCHECK SHOULD’VE GROWN SOME BALLS AND FINISHED HIM.

Serra vs Hughes in september – you heard it here first

predictor didnt call shit

I’m losing it….speechless. They should have the rematch on Spike for free next THursday or something.

This is unbelievable….does this mean GSP has to wait until after Serra vs. Hughes before he gets a shot at the title??!!

The biggest upset in the history of the ufc. I cant Fu**in
believe this! This is the ufc’s upset equivalent to Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas. When Okami Took out Swick my dad told me that this was a sign of things to come. Ithought he was drunk! When Serra won my jaw dropped down further than ever before! PS Koscheck sucks ass!!

I love Serra but no damn way would I have bet on him. I also don’t believe he would win the rematch. Someone can win one out of something with someone…it just is. A punch can land perfect on a certain night for anyone. I told friends at my house to watch for an impresive showing but no way
I thought Serra would actually win. I take nothing from Serra. Wow great job. Like he told that clown Marc leiman, ‘at least they have the heart to get in there and fight.’ And when you do that you always have a chance at victory. Now Matt Hughes proved he is about the most petty little bitch on the planet. Smirking at the screen and mouthing ‘I love it’. Can he look any less classy?

WOW F***IN SPEECHLESS. UFC IS SO UNPREDICTABLE. OH MAN ALL OF CANADA IS IN DISBELIEF HOPE HE COMES BACK STRONG! I GUESS THAT ULTIMATE FIGHTER SPIKE TV SHOW IS THE REAL DEAL.

[quote comment="29087"]anyone know where I can find this fight online?[/quote]
if you download limewire you can probably download this fight

WOW,
Both class act atheletes, Matt has waited all his life for this. Nothing to loose and a “lucky” sticke to the back of the head started it all. It does not take much to change a fight. I must say I *&^% hate Matt Huges saying “I am loving it” in the stand. He is loving it because he is a sore ass redneck looser. He knows he will not beat GSP again. GSP will come back even stronger and better. He sure did after his 1st loss.
GSP Canada is still proud of you and you will be champ again.
Live and learn.
Matt deserved it but I am still sad to see GSP loose.
Cheers!

WOW! SERRA WINS! I WANTED GSP, BUT BOTH ARE SUCH GREAT GUYS – YOU GOT YO GIVE PROPS TO THE UNDERDOG.

AND DESERT DOG NEEDS TO RETIRE HIS LAME PICKS AND GO GET A JOB AT WALMART! HOPE NONE OF YOU GUYS FELL FOR HIS CON GAME AND LOST MONEY.

holycrap…..GOOOOOO KOS!!!!

This was a ground breaking fight!!! Sportscenter is showing its first ever highlights of UFC action!!!! Tune in boys and girls the UFC has arrived in the mainstream!!

joe rogan drank his own PISS 3 times

Hughes and Sherk like two frat boys heckling from a balcony on Bourbon Street. I can’t tell you how sick I am of that jerk.

no way kos should be first in against serra, why not st. pierre v. kos, would be a good rebound match for gsp

Matt turned down his immediate rematch with GSP. GSP already said he wanted the rematch. I for one think they should get an instant rematch together and let Hughes and Kos fight it out.

I have to admit when Im wrong. I shocked by the beat down Serra gave GSP. I have to hand it to him. I was a little down on this PPV before it started but it was one of best ones ive seen i awhile. Thats why I LOVE MMA!

Savior your on a mission eh lol.

Serra definitely ruined my bets, but he made a great finish to the night. Absolutely amazing.

and what the hell Diego….he may as well not have even shown up. I don’t care that he lost, but that wasn’t even a fight.

Neither one (Diego/Kos)should pat themselves on the back for that showing. Very Silvia/Arlovski 3ish. Both guys just scared to lose. No real reason for a 3rd at this point.

Diego went from nightmare to bad dream. Koscheck is confused: He thinks people were booing because he beat Sanchez but they were booing because the fight sucked.

I love how Koscheck still isn’t getting any respect. Before the fight all his haters said ” the only way Kos will win is if he lay n’ prays”. Well he didn’t. If you want to hate on anyone, point your finger at that little bitch named Santchez. He was suppost to be training with the best. He said in his interview ” don’t be surprised if I take Koscheck down.” Give me a break, His stand up looked like shit. Kos totally proved that he is the most improved fighter from the first season of the show. Diego got lucky when he caught Riggs. He has no stand up game at all, and Kos just showed it. He knew he couldn’t take him down. Kos realized after the first round that there was no need to go for the take down. Diego couldn’t hit him. If there is anyone to blame a boring match on it is surely not kos.I am sure people will continue to blame it on him, because for some reason people love to hate him. Eirther way I am a fan, so go Kos and fuck Diego you sorry piece of shit.

The replay of GSP dropping is going to haunt me for awhile…I hope he rebounds quick, Bad night for Greg Jackson. Too much pressure for GSP, I believe the whole respect thing played into it…watch him fight out of Serra’s camp next fight or something retarded.

they just screw up the whole welterweight ranks.
champ matt serra
1 gsp
2 hughes
3 kos
4 diego
5 fitch
i can’t believe i put kos over diego and serra as the champ.

Nothing but respect for Serra but his title rein will be short if he fights hughes next.

the clip of it on sportscenter sent chills down my back…the ufc just kicked boxing square in the groin!!!!

I agree somewhat with you Jordan. Some call it class…I call it stupid to buddy up with someone you have to fight. No way am I saying thats why GSP lost. That was due to Serra’s hands tonight. I just wouldn’t personally hang out with a guy I’m gonna try to knock out later that week. Maybe after…never before. Too much respect is a hinder to your desire to hurt him.

I agree after the fight yes i could sit down and have a beer with you but before hand all im thinkin about is hurting you and i dont wanna be buddy buddy with you. Yes it is class and respect between fighters but there is plenty of time for that after the fight!

I cant believe GSP lost. I know he said that he wasnt going to under-estimate serra but i still think he did. Serra’s record isnt that good and the only thing i think he was worried about was his bjj background. I dont think GSP was afraid of his stand up game. he slipped and got caught. I dont know if i can blame it on the slip but i want to because gsp is one of my favorite fighters. I really hope GSP’s career isnt affected by this. Oh and i wanted to add that i was really upset after i saw how hughes reacted to GSP’s loss. I mean, doesnt a good fighter want to challenge himself. Hughes is now happy that he doesnt have to fight GSP for the title

I must say i was shocked and disappointed really about all three upsets ( although The Swick Okami fight might not have been an upset to most) but Diego, Swick and Gsp all defeated in one night? thats bad enough but i must say it seems like something was not right about the whole night, maybe it was the air in texas or something but these great fighters didn’t look like thmselves.
Swick didn’t look like the same fighter at all. he had no gameplan, no offensive strategy, and no will to win or so it appeared.
Diego did almost the same thing, with no offense to speak of. he didn’t really put up much of an effort to hurt Koscheck at all, maybe he blew his wad at the weigh ins. Anyway I sense some conspiracy about ufc 69 with the way things turned out.

i really thought this was going to be weak card, But i am really glad that i paid to see the HUGest upset ever. I like both guys alot and i could never pick who i wanted to win because i like both guys so much. But now i see kos fighting hughes. And the good o country boy shall get his ass kicked by kos. and then we will see kos and serra. and that woulod be a great fight.Man o Man what a night. I cant wait to see soujodko in the ufc i hope he wins this mourning…

kos ahead of fitch, please what because of a weak unandec. if they werent in the same camp fitch would kill kos.

[quote comment="29167"]but his title rein will be short if he fights hughes next.[/quote]

Exactly Right.

UFC betting made a shitload of money off of the GSP Sanchez fights. I bet alot of people including myself thought they were sure shots to put a big big chunk of money on. Good thing I didn’t bet.

[quote comment="29145"]joe rogan drank his own PISS 3 times[/quote]
lets see that shit on Fear Factor!!!!

No way guys. The conspiracy theory is just crazy. Lets face it that no way Dana could be happy with the turn outs tonight. The ‘biggest’ fight was a dude. Diego and Kos were both booed for that boooing show. I pulled for Okami but after his victory and seeing his is another typical asian chin…I no longer will. Nothing against Swick, just don’t think he’s a champ. And Serra is just not as marketable as GSP. Taking nothing away from the new champ, but Dana can’t be over joyed from this. I feel no fix…just fighting isn’t as easy and predictable as some believe. Rogan said, ‘no mans chin is meant to be hit’. A slip turned into a perfect chin strike can change a fight every time.

Wow. It’s been 3 hours and I’m still replaying it. Serra is coming home to our island with the gold. Unreal. Impressive. I was almost in tears. Never in my life have I been so speechless or shocked. NEVER.

S.K. where from?

I still believe gsp had a 98 percent chance and serra a 2 % chance, serra got fucking insanely lucky.

Please guys, lets leave all of the conspiracy crap to boxing. Just 1 fixed fight could quickly turn the fastest growing sport into a joke. Okamis win isnt really an upset. and I thought Diego would destroy Kos but he didnt even come to fight. Right now I think Niether Kos or Diego should be ranked in the top 5 welterwieghts after that shitty performance. As far as GSP goes he slipped and got caught. It shocked the hell out of me to see serra’s hand raised but thats just MMA. There are no locks in MMA, on any given night any fighter that comes to fight can pull an upset.

I agree with you Tommy. Dana probably shit his pants after seeing GSP go down.

Thanks for the headline – might have waited a couple of hours so fans around the world woke up and had the chance to watch the PPV as well. Damn … now I won’t even bother watching it anymore.

Like matt said all this fight proves is a lousy mma fighter can be the best, people win the lottery all the time. One extremely flukey win, highly doubt serra wins the lottery again though.

Matt hughes is right, he said any welter weight could beat him on any give night, and nights make fights and style make fights ANYTHING can happen, my head is spinning, my sense of reality of upsidedown.

Go to youtube and type in ufsea 069. better hurry they won’t be up long.

Just to say, Matts punch to the back of the head simply helped thrown George off balence. When he back peddled to the fence he reslipped and thats when Serra landed a trully hard shot. To all people saying we need to rethink GSP, any man being hit perfect on the chin while off balence by a heavy handed striker, you will fall. Matt then followed up with several more perfect strikes to end the night. Not magic, just part of it sometimes. Now Hughes is running his mouth saying ‘oh I was happy because now I get to fight Serra’. This is bull and shouldn’t be allowed in my mind, at least not yet. Once again Hughes turned down his rematch right, GSP has not. I say George is the future Champ again and might as well get the belt back around his waist.

YOOOOO!! THATS FCKN RIGHT BRO! NEW YAWK RUNS IT, SERRA KNOCKED HIMMM THE FCK OUTTT!

rogan admitted in the haynes fight that he drinks his own urine. wierd mofo

**Weird** im a little drunk. lol

Im fucking So pissed off I didnt buy this ficht Fuck. I guys that will teach me.

All I know is that Diego and Kos both owe me 20 F**** bucks for fighting like a couple of chicken sh***! I’m a Deigo fan and I’m very upset by his lack of aggression, what was he thinking? And for Kos, that was nothing but a stand up version of his usual “blanket” performance…..I’m pissed at both of them. Kos was looking to out point Diego from the beginning…..I’m not impressed… Go Serra!!! hopefully he will beat the shit out of Hughes at least.

I am devistated that GSP lost his title. I thought the first punch when he stumbled was to the back of his head. They wouldn’t show that part in replays though, except for right after the fight ended and that was it. At the very end of the televise they showed Loisseau demonstrating to George where the hit was and it was to the back of the head. If that was the case GSP should of been allowed to recover before the fight went on. He also slipped on his own water spray at the same time. Credit to Serra for having that “animal instinct” and finshing him off when he smelt GSP was in trouble. As for Hughes getting the next shot at Serra, it should be GSP or at least have GSP vs. Hughes to decide who gets the shot. I believe GSP will be back with a vengence, and regardless of what he said before the fight about not taking Serra lightly, I believe he did, he was caught up in all the hype about him walking all over Serra just like we all were(almost all!) GSP is a class act, he didn’t make excuses.
Kos and Sanchez was the worst fight I have seen!!! I hated Kos before because he is a “snore” but I hate him even more now I know he is coward, he ran from it all, and Sanchez didn’t land anything because he would try to land punches/kicks but once he missed he backed off, he didn’t chase Kos down like he has done in previous fights. Just a bad, bad fight. Considering how much they hate each other and all the antics before the fight, it was rediculous. Kos didn’t get the fact that the booing was for a poor performance, not because the crowd was pro-Sanchez!! He thinks he has a shot at the title, lol.
Grove, in my opinion, got his first legimate win. He has to stop the grave digging though, thats old and unoriginal.
Hope you all enjoyed my mini-novel, see ya J.

Well, I guess all of you who have been dissing Matt Hughes must feel pretty stupid. I guess GSP is human, and I look forward to Hughes now getting a shot for the title, and regaining his crown. I suspect the future will be Hughes vs. Serra, GSP vs. Diego for a shot at Kos with the winner to fight for the title.
I can’t wait for Hughes to get in the ring with Serra and demolish him, and I think it just shows what can happen to anyone in this sport if they have a bad night. Hughes had a bad night against GSP, and now GSP had a bad night against Serra. The difference between Hughes and GSP is that Hughes was able to defend his belt against all comers, GSP couldn’t even last a round with Matt Serra. Now you tell me who has the heart of a champion.

I don’t see Hughes fighting GSP again, but I bet he gets shot at the winner of Serra/Hughes! Maybe have GSP fight Koschek winner gets the winner of Hughes/Serra. Koschek said this is his year, I think he needs to prove it by winning against an experienced fighter before a title shot.

If it is determined that GSP was hurt by a punch to the back of the head and they did not give him ample to to recover than he definitely deserves a rematch ASAP. Then Hughes can fight Koschek.

I wonder if they would put them on the same card?

wow, I cant wait to see the fights…

Koscheck vs Diego (I dont care how kos wins as long as he shuts up diego)

Serra vs GSP (Congrats matt, either way it goes his next fight should be a loss, dont be surprized to see him fight fitch) I would like to see him fight Karo though, oh well.

Hughs vs Kos would be a natural logical match.

GSP vs Diego… I would like to see diego have two loss’s on his record, ha ha

Remember guys none of the match making makes sense so dont be surprised to see weird illogical match ups again.

I believed in Matt Serra because I knew GSP would’nt retain the belt after his first title defence and I said this an hour after he beat Hughes

Got Koscheck fight right, but I messed up on mike swick and okami

Anyone who claims they “knew” Serra would beat GSP is full of shiit. Either you said it just to say it and be different, or your last name is Serra. So please just stop with the self-effication.
If you picked Swick, then you havent studied enough MMA. Anything can happen, but this fight went down for real just like it did on paper.
Diego pulled a Hughes and changed his style WAY TOO MUCH for some unknown freaking reason. He also pulled a Poopie and fought not to lose. I still say Diego is the best 170er in the UFC today. Nothing but an aberration, just like Serra winning. Neither streak will continue for very long.

[quote comment="29133"][quote comment="29087"]anyone know where I can find this fight online?[/quote]
if you download limewire you can probably download this fight[/quote]
bittorrent. http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=ufc 69

Seperate post for this one. Our friend here ‘Lubbock, Texas’ is a friend of Leonard Garcia. He was telling me that this kid is tough as nails and is gonna shock me when I see him. HOLT SHIT did he. I dont care he lost, he proved his is a fighter and that he belongs in the UFC. Dana takes note of shit like that and he will be back.
Huerta, OTOH, is an animal; that division is loaded. Add in all the great Pride 161\155ers and they are gonna need 2 GPs just to sort it all out!

One last time, go to Dailymotion.com and search UFC 69 or Pride 34 and most of the fights are up.

Matt Hughes has had his day, he will never regain his title. GSP got an illegal punch to the back of the head that started a chain reaction. Who would want to see Kos in any fight never mind a title shot. He is a boring coward and if you’re talking about heart, where is Kos’, if he was any kind of good fighter he would of finished Sanchez off. Sanchez had such a poor fight and Kos didn’t have the instinct or guts to end it in a convincing way. GSP will have that title back, he is only 25 and like all have said, anyone can have a bad or unlucky fight on any given night. Hughes lost the first 2 rounds to Penn in his prior title defence, then he got lucky again. GSP demolished Hughes. Hughes vs. GSP for their re-match, Serra vs. whoever, then when GSP beats Hughes again, he gets another shot at the title.

Great main event, I’m a big fan of both fighters and couldn’t be happier for Matt Serra. Koz v.s Sanchez…I never miss a PPV, I am one of the most loyal fans to the UFC but I will never buy a PPV with Sanchez or Koz on the card. There are fighters in Brazil that we (the American Fans) will never hear about because although unbeatable their fights are boring to watch. The fans “BOOOOO’d” this fight and to top it off Josh “Sideshow” Koscheck starts antagonizing the fans after a piss poor performance, almost saying “I don’t give a crap what you think”. Hey Josh, Fuck you Dude, I will not buy anything that youre affiliated with, gear, events, suppliments…anything. You got lucky against my boy Joslin and Youre last fight was a joke. I don’t even care to see you get beat up…and Fuck you!!

A standing punch to the back of the head is not illegal if it is not intentional, so give it a rest C.Girl. All that would ever result would be a warning and only then if it was repeated over and over. GSP got KTFO and that’s all there is to it.

Does anyone think the Sanchez KOS fight was fixed? To me it looked like Diego had a shit load of money bet against himself. The shit did not look right. Congrats to Matt Serra!

so does matt serra fight koscheck now?? koscheck doesn’t deserve a title shot, not now or ever, he’s a boring fighter and a disrepectful asshole, i am so disappointed in diego, what is greg jackson’s problem, that dude should be fired, the one time it went to the ground diego reversed it fast and took control, yet he still tried to stand both the last two rounds, somebody was giving him bad advice, i hope he decides to fight in the grand prix to regain some pride, i’ll never dislike another fighter like i dislike josh koscheck, but he fought smart and diego didn’t and they both deserved the outcome they got…luke cummo was super impressive as was kendel grove, i want to see kendel fight jason mcdonald, that would be a badass fight and would show us where kendel truly stands in the 185…watching the huerta garcia match makes me wonder why in the hell we didn’t see someone like that fighting melvin guillard, daddy was a horrible match up for him silva needs to provide better match ups like the huerta garcia, striker vs. striker and grappler vs. grappler make for much better match ups…one more time props to matt serra, my neighbors called the cops on me and my boys after that fight cause we were too loud, we’re all gsp fans, but the roof blew off when he did what he did…all in all a very nice pay per view that threw me on an emotional roller coaster, what else could i ask for for my 39.99?? oh yeah and i can’t wait to see who nogueria fights first, the heavyweight fights as of late have been subpar and starting ufc70 i’m positive thats all gonna change…

Just youtube.com it. The fights are always on the next day on youtube.com

After watching every fight from last night, Pride live and the UFC fights today, I know I didnt waste my money. The Huerta vs Garcia fight was just awesome, but the rest… Of course Serra winning was incredible, but the fight itself was pretty normal. Nothing real exciting or unusual, and not worth $40 to me. Way too many decisions. The UFC refs have to learn to keep the action moving. Long Live the Yellow Card!!!!!

Nice to see so many intelligent fight fans. I said to my wife before the fight “The only way Matt had a chance was to catch GSP with a phantom or lucky punch” (NO offance to Serra, However he is not championship material.)
The shot to the bad of the head which caused GSP to stummble and slip on a slick spot on the canvas couldn’t have worked out better for Serra. I wonder what the odds are of that happening ever again…
No body needs to question or re-think GSP, he will come back stronger then ever,This will only modivate GSP even more.
I feel sorry for his next opponent and the rest of his divison.Dana White was right when he quoted that GSP is “The Best All Around MMA Fighter In The UFC” Dana can not be to happy with this result.As for Matt Hughes everybody is getting tired of his crap.He could not have shown less class.Dana White and Matt Hughes are friends, my only hope is that Dana does the right thing and gives GSP an instant rematch with Serra or Hughes Vs GSP III live in Montreal Canada, Which would be great for the sport and added exposure.

GSP just got caught…Everyone has that kinda fight but gets the belt back(i.e. Matt H. and Sylvia)..I don’t think that is the last time GSP will have the belt around his waist..

Serra looked good, me and a buddy just looked at each other with disbelief and kinda pissed cause I was starting to think GSP was the second best pound for pound fighter in MMA behind Fedor…

JUST GOES TO SHOW YA ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN…And that is why I love this friggin sport….

Sanchez was boring…almost like he was playing mind games with himself..I hate Kos but at least he did something…

UFC 74 BATTLE OF THE WEALTERWEIGHTS!
Serra vs. Hughes
KOS vs. GSP
The Nightmare vs Jon Fitch..

WHo’s with me?

Wouldn’t that be sweet though?

i’m with you, i want to see gsp destroy koscheck…and it would be hard for the ufc to pass up on serra vs. hughes, ecspecially after all the shit serra was talking during tuf 4 about how how didn’t like hughes and thought he was an arrogant jock and all that…i want to see diego go fight in the grand prix instead of fighting fitch though, he’s obviously not gonna be tired from last nights fight, i think he should do it…

MY BOYS FROM LONG ISLAND DID ME PROUD, I TOLD EVERYONE, DONT BE SHOCK IF SERRA WINS, NOT THE BIGGEST UPSET IN MMA, SERRA A SKILLED FIGHTER HE WILL BEAT HUHGES

If this isnt the biggest upset in UFC history, then what is? INTERESTED IN INTELLIGENT ANSWERS ONLY.

[quote comment="29457"]Well, I guess all of you who have been dissing Matt Hughes must feel pretty stupid. I guess GSP is human, and I look forward to Hughes now getting a shot for the title, and regaining his crown. I suspect the future will be Hughes vs. Serra, GSP vs. Diego for a shot at Kos with the winner to fight for the title.
I can’t wait for Hughes to get in the ring with Serra and demolish him, and I think it just shows what can happen to anyone in this sport if they have a bad night. Hughes had a bad night against GSP, and now GSP had a bad night against Serra. The difference between Hughes and GSP is that Hughes was able to defend his belt against all comers, GSP couldn’t even last a round with Matt Serra. Now you tell me who has the heart of a champion.[/quote]

Feel Stupid??? not for a second, GSP got caught nothing else…No “it wasn’t in god’s plan” bull shit. Matt Hughes is an arrogant Jock and when he got beat by GSP is was because GSP is a better fighter. With either holding the title, i would almost suspect the two will fight for the number one contender spot while Serra defends against unfortunately Kos. I know the KOS fight was boring, but he neutralized Diego. I said it on the “Spoiler” thread that this PPV should have been labled “Reality Check” As much as I was pulling for GSP but the reality of this sport educated all of us (if we didn’t know already “Couture vs Silvia”) that anything can happen.

True believer, we diss Matt Hughes because of his behavior and attitude. Case and point what we witnessed last night, and how he acted. And if anything when Hughes and GSP 3 goes down, I guarentee that GSP will be eager to tattoo some more respect on the face of Matt Hughes.

Here we go with the band wagon jumpers. Serra got extremely lucky and gsp had a very bad night. I would be willing to bet big money gsp could win over 90 out of a 100 fights with serra, serra is a joke, you losers you say I knew he would win make me want to puke. “I knew I would win the lottery” people who say stuff like that are morons. Serra couldn’t lose, if he lost, big deal look who he’s fighting and if he wins…….he knew he would win.

I pray they let hughes fight serra and gsp vs koscheck.

ANYONE in mma has a punchers chance.

I was gonna say the same thing, not for the first part, thats given, but the latter part. Kos showed he got his game to the point where it is well rounded. He definitely deserves a shot at GSP. The winner of that fight should fight for the title.

As for GSP, I love that guy and I feel bad he lost his belt with Matt Hughes in the audience loving every second of it. But, hes a fucking animal and we all know he isnt going anywhere soon. He will be on many fight cards to come and I dont see him ending up in any dark matches. I mean shit, hes only 25.

And Garcia definitely showed hes a fighter, plain and simple. Huerta showed hes a beast though. I hope a few of the lightweights from the UFC make it over to Japan for the Bushido.

[quote comment="29522"]If this isnt the biggest upset in UFC history, then what is? INTERESTED IN INTELLIGENT ANSWERS ONLY.[/quote]

UFC 1 Kimo vs Gracie..Kimo had like 100lbs on Gracie or some crazyness…i think Gracie even choked him out from full guard….

Hughes may not be fighting for any titles anytime soon. If you all havent heard, Hughes MAY be fighting in the Pride LWGP in May. A flyer that went around at Pride 34 had Matt Hughes, Diego Sanchez, Luiz Buscape, Marcus Aurelio, Luiz Azevedo, Gilbert Melendez, Joachim Hansen, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Mitsuhiro Ishida, Shin’ya Aoki, Hayato “Mach” Sakurai, and Takanori Gomi listed as combatants in the LWGP. We shall see… That’s only 12 and there will be 16. If Diaz can clear medical by then, I’m sure he’ll be there. The rest I’m sure will be filled in with UFC 155 and 170ers.

[quote comment="29511"]The Huerta vs Garcia fight was just awesome, but the rest…[/quote]

Huerta and Garcia are true warriors. Man, what a fight. After the decision I was thinking what those two guys would do in the TUF house. They’d kill ‘em all. I take back whatever I said about the 155lb division. With guys like that around its amazing to watch (but I still think the TUF guys this season are pussies).

Well anyways, here’s Matt Hughes chance to regain his title…I really don’t want to see Serra vs Hughes. I would predict a total grappling match. 5 rounds of chest on chest man love.

[quote post="1737"](but I still think the TUF guys this season are pussies). [/quote]

All but Diaz and J-Lau. I think most of the rest are fodder for the rest of the division. Too early to judge really, but I dont like what I’ve seen so far. They keep saying its the craziest season yet blah blah. I think they mean the stupid shit in the house, which I could care less about. All I wanna see are the fights. I love this division.
Check out some Shooto 145ers go at it. I looks like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon sometimes those dudes fly so high.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/shooto/video/xtjmq_tenkei-fujimiya-highlight-shooto

Ok I will be pissed if Hughes gets the first crack at Serra. GSP deserves a rematch ASAP! Hughes was saying he loves it cause he knows he cant beat GSP and now he thinks he won’t have to fight him to get his precious belt back. he sees Serra as an easy fight and bet he’s happy as hell Serr a did his job for him. Plus you know Dana kisses Hughes’ ass so much that he’ll probably give him the shot too. And as far as Hughes fighting gsp next? it would never happen cause dana will save that fight until the belt is involved again, besides hughes would never fight Gsp again unless he has to to keep from losing his belt again! And i dont even want to start on Diego, He must have sniffed too many of his own farts and liked it, cause that was not the performance of a champ.

Morethanufc I think the obvious answer is Couture/Sylvia. Randy had the size disadvantage, and he was 43. Serra just had the size thing but atleast he’s not old.

Serra, man still cant believe he beat GSP on the feet. I wonder where this will put serra on the ranking list because i dont think he is even in the top ten.

[quote comment="29542"][quote post="1737"](but I still think the TUF guys this season are pussies). [/quote]

All but Diaz and J-Lau.[/quote]

Agreed – I dunno about lil’ Diaz yet, because I haven’t seem him fight, but Lauzon has the biggest potential as far as I can tell and I like his attitude (from what I’ve seen and read on his blog).

As for the future matchups: I think GSP will have to fight one of the contenders first, because Dana barely ever gave re-matches to de-crowned champions. I’d be upset if Hughes would get an immediate shot, especially after his lame ass performance against Lytle. Koscheck-GSP and Hughes-Sanchez – winner gets the shot.

[quote comment="29538"]Hughes may not be fighting for any titles anytime soon. If you all havent heard, Hughes MAY be fighting in the Pride LWGP in May. A flyer that went around at Pride 34 had Matt Hughes, Diego Sanchez, Luiz Buscape, Marcus Aurelio, Luiz Azevedo, Gilbert Melendez, Joachim Hansen, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Mitsuhiro Ishida, Shin’ya Aoki, Hayato “Mach” Sakurai, and Takanori Gomi listed as combatants in the LWGP. We shall see… That’s only 12 and there will be 16. If Diaz can clear medical by then, I’m sure he’ll be there. The rest I’m sure will be filled in with UFC 155 and 170ers.[/quote]
I dont think Hughes will be fighting ar 155, i’m sure he walks around at 200 or over.

The tourney wont be at 155. I’ve been trying like hell for weeks to get more details, but the two numbers I’ve heard the most ( not confirmed at all ) is 165 and 167. Both are doable for Hughes.

Everyone is going overboard with the whole “Serra got lucky” thing. Was it luck that he landed a punch??? I dont think so. He PLANNED to throw that punch it didnt happen by accident. Hes a pro who took advantage of a situation when it presented itself, however I dont think that situation would present itself often if at all with 10 more matches vs St Pierre. I dont consider it luck, I consider it good timing.

The GSP-Serra fight came down to this, Matt Serra is as professional as they come (albeit no where near as athletic as GSP or any of the Top 170 fighters) and he capitalized on St Pierre’s mistake. It doesnt mean he’s better than GSP, cuz hes not! Its like GSP said, “Matt Serra was the better man TONIGHT”.

Thats all it is, its not like GSP is tarnished for his career and we have to hail Matt Serra as the best 170lb’r in the world. Its MMA folks, these things happen theres a reason NO ONE is undefeated.

The way I look at it is GSP is still the best 170 fighter in the world, but Serra earned his day in the sun by being a professional and making the most of a mistake. It wasnt luck that Serra knew what to do with the opportunity when it presented itself. Both guys are as classy as they come which makes it even better (too bad I cant say the same for Hughes).

Diego sucks and Koscheck sucks. That’s all there is to it. Diego was actually trying to be a brawler, which will never happen because he will never know how to punch properly. Judging by that match he must be incompetent to learn how to strike, since he said he was training with Oscar De La Hoya. What a retard. And Koscheck should be as pleased with his performance as Diego was with his. Since Diego was just hopping around like a defenseless bunny rabbit he should have finished him. You might as well have let me in the octagon to fight after that dreadful display of fraudulent embroilment. But i do tip my hat to Matt Serra.

Another quick note, Huerta and Garcia became my favorite fighters @ 155 last night. It that was a championship fight it would be hailed as one of the best all time. The pace they set and kept was AMAZING. MMA truely at its best. Plus Garcia was getting pounded, had a SMILE on his face the ENTIRE fight and never stopped scrapping or slowed down once.

Those two are TRUE WARRIORS (Something Diego said, but couldnt back up). Huerta Garcia had more action in the 1st rd than the entire Koz/Diego fight.

The fact that Koz even celebrated as much as he did blew my mind. If he had any idea how bad BOTH fighters look he wouldnt have been proud.

The Koz Diego fight reminded me of a quote our boy “Tommy” here at UFCMANIA said the other day (Dont mind if I steal it Tommy lol I am giving u full credit!) he said “Its like winning a race in the special Olympics, even though you won your still a retard” That defines that fight, Koz looked like an ass celebrating (dont get me wrong though, he def WON that fight for sure). Its just something he shouldnt have been proud of. It looked like an episode of “Dancing with the Stars” with LESS contact. My Grandmother with 1 wooden leg and a glass eye coulda gave us more action.

I totally disagree, with wrestling and bjj you don’t accidentally
beat someone but with striking you could hit the guy in the same place 20 times and then 21 and the guys out stone cold. In striking any one has a punchers chance gsp rarely if ever got stunned in his previous 14 fights and has been hit many times by guys every bit as good as serra most were better. Gsp’s only 2 loses were flukey wins, I KNOW if the fight continued in both cases and went to a decision gsp would have won.

That was UFC 3 Jordan.

Diego and Koscheck… How do you land only 5 shots in 15 minets and come out with a decision win? Koscheck looked more like a track star than an MMA fighter. Every time Diego tried to push the fight Koscheck would run. This whole thing was a joke to Koscheck. He didn’t want to fight, he didn’t even want to win, he just wanted Diego to lose. This fight was the main reason paid the $40.00. As far as i’m concerned they both own me $5.00.

I HAPPY ALL[quote comment="29124"]I’m losing it….speechless. They should have the rematch on Spike for free next THursday or something.

This is unbelievable….does this mean GSP has to wait until after Serra vs. Hughes before he gets a shot at the title??!![/quote]
LOL.I FEELING THAT NOT TAKING SHIT FROM MATT BUT DAMN GSP AIN’T NO DIFFERENT THAN EVAN TANNER WINNIG THE TITLE THEN LOSING THE SON OF A BITCH. I HOPE THEY DONT JUST FEED MATT HUGHES TO SERRA OFF TOP,I THINK MATT NEEDS TO FIGHT GSP(RUBBERBAND MATCH)TO SEE WHO GETS SERRA LT KOS AND DSAN FIGHT A COUPLE MORE TIMES

EVEN THE SUN SHINES ON A DOGS ASS

[quote comment="29220"]Thanks for the headline – might have waited a couple of hours so fans around the world woke up and had the chance to watch the PPV as well. Damn … now I won’t even bother watching it anymore.[/quote]
you knew there would be a headline. why did you even get online

[quote comment="29589"]you knew there would be a headline. why did you even get online[/quote]

I had UFCmania in the group of websites that start when I open the browser. Well, for the most time I did. Removed from my bookmarks now.

[quote post="1737"]I had UFCmania in the group of websites that start when I open the browser. Well, for the most time I did. Removed from my bookmarks now.[/quote]

Ha!

Right .. “Ha!”. Easy for you to say, because you didn’t had an event spoiled for you. But no point in talking about that now. I am just glad I hestitated when I was about to punch a hole in my TFT.

you spoiled it for yourself man, you should have just watched the ppv when it happened…

It does suck for you YT..but if you knew your computer was set up to goto ufcmania’s homepage and this site is known for spoilers, teasers and headers..You should have bought and watched the event, then booted your computer up.

serra is rocky, from his opening music to getting the belt, not since rocky have i had that feeling in my stomach…..by far the biggest upset in mma history…….long live serra

[quote comment="29602"]you spoiled it for yourself man, you should have just watched the ppv when it happened…[/quote]

It hasn’t been telecasted in my country and I had to turn my computer on to try to figure out if its already on YouTube or DailyMotion, because this is the only way I can see most UFC events (except the european ones I guess), so uh… whatever. Since there was a threat on UFC 69 which included the warning *SPOILERS* I was under the (false) impression, that spoilers regarding UFC 69 would be kept sealed there until people in other timezones than the US would have a chance to watch the fights. But its apparently futile to argue about it here.

[quote comment="29608"][quote comment="29602"]you spoiled it for yourself man, you should have just watched the ppv when it happened…[/quote]

It hasn’t been telecasted in my country and I had to turn my computer on to try to figure out if its already on YouTube or DailyMotion, because this is the only way I can see most UFC events (except the european ones I guess), so uh… whatever. Since there was a threat on UFC 69 which included the warning *SPOILERS* I was under the (false) impression, that spoilers regarding UFC 69 would be kept sealed there until people in other timezones than the US would have a chance to watch the fights. But its apparently futile to argue about it here.[/quote]

I feel your pain buddy, but with that upset last night it was inevitable. Look at it this way, they showed the highlights of the fight on Sportscenter so you could have turned on your TV and got it spoiled all the same. Its SOOO hard to avoid spoilers for big fights (Ill never forget Tyson Lenox Lewis got spoiled for me while I was walking out of a concert). But I def. feel your pain, cant blame UFCMANIA though I think it was just a perfect storm of bad luck.

YT and whoever else-

Apologies for “spoiling” the results. We are a UFC site that updates the site with the latest news 4-5 times a day.

Normally, we hide results for those in other countries and different timezones.

But when something big like that happens, I can’t not write about it.

I realize that some folks have us as their homepage or get RSS feeds. I can’t do much about it other than to recommend changing those bookmarks before a fight or making other adjustments.

Because last night was crazy, and I wasn’t about to not write about it. I’ll include that caveat — I guess — in upcoming event coverage.

[quote comment="29502"]A standing punch to the back of the head is not illegal if it is not intentional, so give it a rest C.Girl. All that would ever result would be a warning and only then if it was repeated over and over. GSP got KTFO and that’s all there is to it.[/quote]
THANK YOU i know you CANADIENS are mad that your golden boy got KTFO but stop makin excuses Serra beat him at his own game give the man some credit

[quote comment="29637"][quote comment="29502"]A standing punch to the back of the head is not illegal if it is not intentional, so give it a rest C.Girl. All that would ever result would be a warning and only then if it was repeated over and over. GSP got KTFO and that’s all there is to it.[/quote]
THANK YOU i know you CANADIENS are mad that your golden boy got KTFO but stop makin excuses Serra beat him at his own game give the man some credit[/quote]
Lol, I noted the “Canadiens” point. Funny RoB!

Don’t know if anyone caught it, but they did cover the title bout on Sportscenter. It was late last night, and I don’t know how many shows they covered it on. It was the only fight they talked about, all though they did show footage of Kendall in the promo for covereage. ESPN is finally catching on.

This fight reminded me of Cro Cop Randleman 1.

RoB Who said anything about being Canadian. You don’t have to be Canadian to like GSP. It wasn’t the “golden boy loss’ that has surprised people. GSP is a fantastic fighter and all the UFC boys commentating and Couture all thought it was going to be a win for GSP. And if you look at my first comment I did give Serra credit for his killer instinct and smelt when GSP was in trouble and didn’t back off and ended it impressively.
More than ufc, a low blow is not illegal when done unintentionally either but they still give the fighter a chance to recover, so please, don’t tell me to give it a rest when 3/4 of the people writing here have commented on it. I am not saying that Serra still wouldn’t have won because he was awesome.
There is thing called national pride, and if the CanadiAns like their boy and support him then theres nothing wrong with that and of course they will be disappointed, and only natural to look for excuses just like Hughes fans did when he had the s… kicked out of him.

[quote comment="29518"]MY BOYS FROM LONG ISLAND DID ME PROUD, I TOLD EVERYONE, DONT BE SHOCK IF SERRA WINS, NOT THE BIGGEST UPSET IN MMA, SERRA A SKILLED FIGHTER HE WILL BEAT HUHGES[/quote]

YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT. Serra can make it happen

[quote post="1737"]More than ufc, a low blow is not illegal when done unintentionally either but they still give the fighter a chance to recover[/quote]
A punch to the back of the head, and a trained grown man kicking you in the nuts are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!

But yes, a low blow is illegal whether intentional or not and usually if the fight must be paused, a one time warning is issued. Second time is a point deduct, then a DQ. Punches to the back of the head are never called, NEVER, when the fighters are standing. I bet I’ve seen somewhere from 1000-1500 fights in my life, from live in person, live TV, or on the net, and have never seen a standing punch to the back of head even warned.

So, give it a rest.

Speaking of Canadiens gsp eas not the only one who had a huge loss on saturday night. The Montreal Canadiens Blew it against the Leafs and lost there playoff spot. Terrible night for the frogs!!!

You don’t have to be rude. Every one has their own opinions and I have seen it in Cage Rage. You are not the ultimate source on mma so quit acting like it and give it a rest. I bet you are Hughes fan.

That last comment was for More than Ufc

C.Girl i totally agree. Hughes fans are losers anyway

When Hughes got kicked in the knackers the 1st time in his fight with GSP i thought he was playing the fool.

[quote comment="29669"]You don’t have to be rude. Every one has their own opinions and I have seen it in Cage Rage. You are not the ultimate source on mma so quit acting like it and give it a rest. I bet you are Hughes fan.[/quote]
There are opinions and factually incorrect statements. What category do you believe yours falls into?

Butting with the head.
2. Eye gouging of any kind.
3. Biting.
4. Hair pulling.
5. Fish hooking.
6. Groin attacks of any kind.
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8. Small joint manipulation.
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.

[quote comment="29637"][quote comment="29502"]A standing punch to the back of the head is not illegal if it is not intentional, so give it a rest C.Girl. All that would ever result would be a warning and only then if it was repeated over and over. GSP got KTFO and that’s all there is to it.[/quote]
THANK YOU i know you CANADIENS are mad that your golden boy got KTFO but stop makin excuses Serra beat him at his own game give the man some credit[/quote]

Nice Generalized comment, insult a whole nation, it’s good to know that kind of behavior is accepted here. I’m happy for Matt Serra, his life is now complete and by winning the title he just validated the whole season of TUF4.

You forget that GSP gave Serra more credit than the majority of your country, and i won’t be surprised how easily he’ll be tossed a side when the “reign of terra” is ova…

Jens got caught by Lauzon and still look where Lauzon’s now?
Serra beat GSP fairly squarely AGREED, but everybody on this site or UFC fan period knows Serra caught GSP…lucky or not or whatever. I’m sure Serra enjoys the underdog role and he’ll continue to have it unless he defends the title against Shonie Carter. Given the nature of the sport this kind of shit is always going to happen. Are the results definitive??? Hell No!

MORE THAN UFC go to the official UFC website and look under rules then go to fouls(where low blows are also covered) and look at #9 “no striking to the spine or the back of the head” and thats a standing rule because the ground rules are also covered, so I say my opinion is a fact.

Jordan I totally agree with you, that was an uncalled comment by RoB, I talked about that in my earlier comment @ 4:48 pm.

It’s like arguing with an entrant at the Special Olympics. I’ll let you win but your still …

God, that’s funny.

[quote comment="29729"]Jordan

I totally agree with you, that was an uncalled comment by RoB, I talked about that in my earlier comment @ 4:48 pm.[/quote]

Yeah I seen that, I like how he jumps all over canadians as soon as the opportunity became availible, now if i wanted to lower myself to that level i would say that, that is typical yankee behaviour, but i’m not the type to let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch.

great comeback. Did you check the rules. Why do you feel the need to insult people. Not only me but by using “special olympics” to try and get a cheap laugh. You’re not funny.

More than ufc In fact I take great offence to what you just said. Those athletes have mega heart and should be applauded for their efforts and should not be used as a butt of a joke to try and insult someone. Shame on you.

[quote comment="29739"]It’s like arguing with an entrant at the Special Olympics. I’ll let you win but your still …

God, that’s funny.[/quote]

Sounds good, MTUFC was fed his own words by a …….

You know what man I used to respect your opinion until now, grow up. The punch was unintentional YES, but the effects of it may have lead to the result in which transpired. Should Matt Serra be happy, hell yeah, why not??? But once he loses the title, we’ll see where he ranks.

[quote comment="29752"][quote comment="29739"]It’s like arguing with an entrant at the Special Olympics. I’ll let you win but your still …

God, that’s funny.[/quote]

Sounds good, MTUFC was fed his own words by a …….

You know what man I used to respect your opinion until now, grow up. The punch was unintentional YES, but the effects of it may have lead to the result in which transpired. Should Matt Serra be happy, hell yeah, why not??? But once he loses the title, we’ll see where he ranks.[/quote]

C.Girl i’m not sayin you’re like that or there is even a problem with that…Oh and he is a Hughes fan

[quote comment="29663"][quote post="1737"]More than ufc, a low blow is not illegal when done unintentionally either but they still give the fighter a chance to recover[/quote]
A punch to the back of the head, and a trained grown man kicking you in the nuts are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!

But yes, a low blow is illegal whether intentional or not and usually if the fight must be paused, a one time warning is issued. Second time is a point deduct, then a DQ. Punches to the back of the head are never called, NEVER, when the fighters are standing. I bet I’ve seen somewhere from 1000-1500 fights in my life, from live in person, live TV, or on the net, and have never seen a standing punch to the back of head even warned.

So, give it a rest.[/quote]

It sounds like somebody needs a little validation, or could it be that he feels that since he’s watched soo many fights that his opinion should matter??? SOMEBODY CALL DANA WHITE!!!! Theres a blogger here that thinks he should be working for you, maybe even succeed you??? His resume is sure fancy and I wonder given your extensive knowledge and how often you feel the need to display it to simple UFC fans, it sounds like somebody’s feeling a little under appreciated….for what exactly i have yet to find out.

Jordan thank-you, I know I probably over-reacted to the special olympics comment, but he had no good comeback, a rule is rule wether he agrees with it or not. And no I’m not like that I’m quite normal, I have to be , I hate Hughes !!

[quote comment="29761"]Jordan thank-you, I know I probably over-reacted to the special olympics comment, but he had no good comeback, a rule is rule wether he agrees with it or not. And no I’m not like that I’m quite normal, I have to be , I hate Hughes !![/quote]

He actually stole that saying from somebody else, i think he believes that this site revolves around his opinion or the world of MMA for that matter, the guy knows his shit i’ll give him that much but he accepts defeat as well as his MMA clone of George Bush

Jordan lmao. I bet he does know it, but you have to respect others have different points of view and be adult about it, and he was being immature and it was making me angry. Maybe that was his intention who knows

WOW! I did not know that it was going to be so suprising to people. I posted that I thought St. Pierre would dominate, but I have also watched enough fights to note that MMA is full of “Suprises”! In fact I said that in many threads. I am unsure what I said exacly, but I think it was something like, ” MMA is a game of surprise and why would we watch if there were not some surprising results” and that was under the Article “St. Pierre sans Renzo good for Serra?”. I wont act like I called this fight , but I sure as hell am not suprised. If anything I have total respect. As for the people cliaming Foul, or Lucky punch, or illegal punch, think about this.

Put a friend in front of you, then extend you fist, ask them to react, the first thing the will do, is turn away and duck there head. As for the damage, at most it stumbled him due to the fact he was already in a unbalanced position.

As for the people saying luck punch, if you watch that fight in its entirety you will notice that Matt Serra was throwing with the intent to dismantle, and was doing very well even before the “so called illegal punch”. I think he meant to hit, and I do not think it was luck, I think it was planned, and that he showed a multitude of standing ability. Think about the pre fight, he stated “don’t be suprised if I stand up and knock him out”. Even his camp stated, “He is hard to hit, and is heavy handed”, So you guys called surprise, I call Respect.

I think that St. Pierre will come back strong, and in the end will dominate. But I will say it now, like I said it before, ” MMA is a game of surprise and why would we watch if there were not some surprising results”.

Here is what I think should happen, based on the Division, and my personal (but very unimportant) Opinion.

GSP Rematch Serra
Hueges vs Sanchez, winner takes on Koscheck for number one contender.

Why, because I hate Koscheck, Hueges, and Sanchez, but I believe that Sanchez even in loss is better then Koscheck, but I believe Hueges should have to gain back a title fight due to his decision to not take the rematch. I believe that Koscheck is just caught up in the middle of fighters that will outclass him (in fighting skills) and that its only a matter of time before he is dominated.

Hope I have not cut any nerves,

Later
Chris Valentine

Mr.know it all……..LOL by the way its HUGHES not HUEGES something tells me you have no idea what your talking about.

Oh I forgot

Later
Nathan :p

Chris No you have not cut any nerves, you know why? Everyone has their own opinion and I respect yours. The “illegal punch” thing was just a comment I had made to say that it is a foul to punch to the back of the head intentional or not. Serra did a primo job in finishing GSP and credit to him. There was a fight awhile back, Frank Shamrock vs. Renzo Gracie that was paused because Shamrock hit Gracie in the back of his head, Gracie couldn’t continue after the 5 minute recovery time allotted and subsequentially F. Shamrock was DQ’d. A strike to the back of the head can be dangerous(concussion etc) and thats why the rule is there, just ask Gracie how it was! I think GSP should get the first shot at Serra and Serra should want that too because he needs to convince mma fans that he was deserving of it. GSP will win. I also hate Hughes, Koscheck and I dislike Sanchez some what. You’re right about Kos being outclassed, he will be lost in the upper rankings of his weight class.

UFCMania, if my comment is not ok to post please let me know, and I will edit the comment. If it is to outlandish, or is in anyway offensive, I will gladly apoligize, and only comment with extreme caution to what I say in the future.

Thank You
Chris Valentine

CGirl

I would like to thank you for your Comment. As for the Frank Shamrock fight, I did see that fight. I would never say that the Punch was a legal blow, but that at most would have rendered a warning, even with the win. In Franks fight he was warned multiple times not to punch Gracie in the back of the head, and he continued doing so, and that constituted a a DQ. I also believe that Gracie may have been over rating the punch a little, and that his camp ultimately caused him to not continue. As for that last comment it is only an opinion, and I hope no one goes after me for that.

I respect your comments CGirl, the are done with respect, and are explained very well.

Later
Chris Valentine

Mr.know it all……..LOL by the way its HUGHES not HUEGES something tells me you have no idea what your talking about.

Hey man, I am no know it all! I don’t feel that I said anything out of Fact but more out of Opinion. An Opinion is just that, and I would hope to think if you are correcting my spelling you would know that Opinions do not always reflect facts, and in some cases can reflect upbring along with values. I have posted a number of times lately and have been careful as to how I voice my opinion so that I do not come across as a know it all. This is a place to voice there opinion on MMA, and I happen to feel like I know quite a bit. I would someday like to write some articles on MMA as a hobby. As for misprinting “Hughes”, I apoligize, and would hope that you have something more to say about my comments in the future.

As for your previous comments, I have come to the conclusion that you are a Hughes fan (correct me if my opinionated conclusion is wrong), and that the real reason you want to call me a know it all is due to you have nothing else to say about my comment, and you are upset that I dislike Hughes! Well I apoligize for not directly referencing why I dislike Matt Hughes, and where my information came from.

Here Goes

I enjoy chatting up a storm with Evan Shoman (a MMA portrait Artist) and he posted a comment on my page that I truly believe in. As a fan of his work, and as a internet friend I have the utmost respect for this man. He is a father, a husband, and a man that has no tolerance for lairs, or people talking down others, and this is what he commented my page about Hughes when talking about the second Hughes vs GSP fight.

Hughes vs GSP- F*** Matt in his redneck a**. He is such a piece of shit, that guy. I hope he gets hit by a bus. Why the hate? As a few of us that are involved in the mma industry know, Matt has done some unforgivable shit outside the ring. He talks about being a good Christian and family man, but his actions (undocumented on the internet) have shown otherwise. I hope GSP retires Matt. He is a black hearted horrible human being.

If you would like to know how to read this please visit the url’s below, and come up with you own opinion.

Nathan, the next time you voice you opinion, I hope that in place of calling me a “know it all” and say I have no idea what I am talking about, please refrain because I would never attack your comments, and at most I would comment with respect, and give reason.

Source- Evan Shoman Shomanart.com
URL Link- (”http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.
view&friendID=82677768&blogID=193947535&Mytoken=8EBA192C-6B
21-4C90-AFEA327AE830111B44512809″³)
Comment Source-(”http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.
viewprofile&friendID=23571953&Mytoken=E0F3C7C5-5F09-4678-B4
CF432FD42188F944682293″³)

Again I apologize if I have offended anyone, and hope that I can continue commenting, with out someone referencing me has a know it all, because what I say is an opinion, and nothing more.

Later
Chris Valentine

I am not sure if the original one I posted will show up due to language, so I will post this and just ask UFCMania to delete the previous one. It is exactly the same but where some of the words are derogatory I edited it with ******.

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1156

Roger Huerta video on Sherdog. It’s really cool, really really cool.

Hey, anyone notice that the Serra fight wasnt ended via Ref Stoppage, but actually due to tapout? I think it’s in the books the other way, but GSP clearly is tapping at the end.

YOUTAPPED!!!!!

[quote comment="29954"]
YOUTAPPED!!!!![/quote]

Haha – nice one MTUFC!

Does no one remember the bashing, on this web site, that the U.S took after Hughes idiotic comments.sO I dont want to hear any canadiEns cryin about generalizations and assumptions or whinin about what ufcmania allows on THIER site I agree that GSP is one of the best-classiest Fighters in the world but he got KTFO fair and square GSP was running scared.and the only reason he got punched in the head is because he put his head down No one, me especially cares, that GSP kicked hughes in the nads multiple times dont say we made excuses when the red neck got KTFO And MTUFC i couldn’t agree more i’ve been kicked in the nads b4 that deserves a break but I’ll take MTUFC’s OPINION over C.Girls any day (a timeout for a punch supposedly to the back of the head)

[quote comment="29797"] I think GSP should get the first shot at Serra and Serra should want that too because he needs to convince mma fans that he was deserving of it.quote]
C. GIRL convince us of what He beat GSP into submission that is pretty convincing He showed he deserved it I say let GSP beat up Koscheck so we don’t have to see that in a title fight or maybe he can retire hughes but dont say serra didnt prove he was deserving

Just to be clear,of course serra meant to strike. the luck part was the way it transpired (off balance,stumble,slip).Serra can say what ever he wants however I truly believe he was shocked at the way the KO started. Anybody can be knocked out(sanchez vs riggs). It’s hard to comprehend that a fighter who barley got by shonie carter in tuf4 and bored the hell out of us in the final could stand with a guy like GSP.
Good for Serra because this would have been the end for him.
anything can happen in MMA. Lets see what Danas next move will be

BUT… GSP IS AN MMA GOD! He was going to keep that belt forEVER!!

Why on earth would anyone say that GSP deserves an immediate rematch. He is a great fighter… but the fact is, he lost the title on his very first defense of the title. When you have an amazing former champion like Hughes that didnt even get an immediate rematch….

The thing with alot of internet speak is, alot of personal overjudgemental opinions come into play. A lot of times it adds great color like on this site, but sometimes you just get a feel for what the masses might thing, and wonder why.

[quote comment="29991"]Does no one remember the bashing, on this web site, that the U.S took after Hughes idiotic comments.sO I dont want to hear any canadiEns cryin about generalizations and assumptions or whinin about what ufcmania allows on THIER site I agree that GSP is one of the best-classiest Fighters in the world but he got KTFO fair and square GSP was running scared.and the only reason he got punched in the head is because he put his head down

No one, me especially cares, that GSP kicked hughes in the nads multiple times dont say we made excuses when the red neck got KTFO

And MTUFC i couldn’t agree more i’ve been kicked in the nads b4 that deserves a break but

I’ll take MTUFC’s OPINION over C.Girls any day (a timeout for a punch supposedly to the back of the head)[/quote]

I didn’t read any comments generalizing the U.S in regards to Matt Hughes behaviour, 1) I didn’t write any, and 2) Whine about what exactly?? It’s good to know that I play the origin card if needed, for whatever stupid reason, when in all actuallity, it’s men that are fighting, not countries.

I believe the arguement went off topic because somebody had to get personal in attemp to solidify their rebutal. Yeah getting kicked in the Nads fucking hurts, bad! And a fighter is allowed to continue after a chance to recover. Most of the punches to back of the head i’ve seen are when the fighters are down in FULL GUARD and there isn’t much force behind them. But I can look for all the excuses in world to make myself feel better about the fight. I seen the Countdown, Serra sparred 80 plus rounds, his punches were accurate and HEAVY, Hats off to him honestly he KO’d the guy that dismantled the most dominating welterweight Champ in UFC history. GSP is only 25 we got lots to see of him yet to come.

RoB if you read my comments earlier I did say Serra was deserving of his win, the comment I made was probably worded wrong, I meant that Serra would probably want the rematch to shut everyone up and prove to them that he is for real because there are going to be people forever saying his win was a 1 in million and he will never repeat it. I believe he totally deserved that victory he was awesome, as much as I am a GSP fan and it hurts, he lost.

Chris yeah, I know what you mean you have to be very careful how you word things on this blog. The reason I put the Shamrock vs. Gracie fight in is because someone said that a blow to the back of the head was not a foul when standing, although that happened on the ground the rule does not say on the ground but in general and I also thought Gracie embelished his condition too.

The very first blog I wrote about the GSP fight and the whole blow to the back of the head thing, on reflection I don’t believe it deserved a time-out, that was a knee-jerk reaction, but I still believe it started a chain reaction that caused GSPs defeat(and he was beat, boo-hoo). But, it is a foul to strike the back of the head, so I don’t want anymore personal attacks on myself or the whole Canadian/ American thing, we have enough fighting between nations in the world right now, this is not the place to do it. Lets talk MMA people.

[quote comment="30206"]The very first blog I wrote about the GSP fight and the whole blow to the back of the head thing, on reflection I don’t believe it deserved a time-out, that was a knee-jerk reaction, but I still believe it started a chain reaction that caused GSPs defeat(and he was beat, boo-hoo). But, it is a foul to strike the back of the head, so I don’t want anymore personal attacks on myself or the whole Canadian/ American thing, we have enough fighting between nations in the world right now, this is not the place to do it. Lets talk MMA people.[/quote]

fair enough thas why we are here- to talk about mma. Sorry about any offensive things said i like canada as much as the next person drinking age is 18 apparently. and if MTUFC is out there was pretty funny to read you standing up to the GSP worshippers

RoB drinking age is 19, at least here on the west coast, could be 18 elsewere. Its only natural to stick up for the fighters you like, GSP just happens to be one of mine as well as other ufc fighters ie: Franklin, Liddel, Couture, Anderson Silva, Royce Gracie and many more outside of the UFC ie: Mark Weir, Lee Murray, Brad Picket etc. I love to watch the Grand Prix(kick-boxing), and King of the cage, Cage Rage ,we don’t get Pride matches here so I don’t know too much about their fighters except for the ones they’ve been show casing in the UFC lately and what I read about them. I wouldn’t say I worship GSP or any other fighter for that matter, they are after all only human.

RoB by the way, apology accepted. How do you get those happy faces etc in your blog? If I knew how I would have inserted here ____

MTUFC As much as I hate to admit it, I just watched the end of the fight again and at the same time McCarthy stepped in to end the fight GSP rolled over and TAPPED. It will stay as a ref stop though because it happened simutanously.

C. Girl….i only have one question…I can see why you like Franklin, Couture and Liddell……but Lee Murray??? Haha the dudes in prison for robbery and coulnt fight in the ufc before becuase he had visa issues do to the fact he was in other legal troubles…something about a stabbing…haha its just weird to me

MMA dude Didn’t know that, still was a decent fighter though.

MMA Dude we are way behind in cage rage here on our fight network #14 . Murray did fight in UFC 46 vs.G. Rivira. So the last time I saw him nothing was said about it so I assume it happened after that. I just looked it up, he was in a Morrocan jail for a large heist and was due to be released in February. He was in a fight and was stabbed and almost died. He isn’t the first fighter to be in legal trouble. Sounds to me though that he has become quite the loser.

[quote comment="30321"]MTUFC

As much as I hate to admit it, I just watched the end of the fight again and at the same time McCarthy stepped in to end the fight GSP rolled over and TAPPED. It will stay as a ref stop though because it happened simutanously.[/quote]

I think Big Jock stopped it when GSP leaned over and tapped his leg. Be interesting to see if BJ says anything about it on his blog.
And C.Girl, we can let it rest. Seriously, fights end with KO’s via strikes to the back of the head. Mirko has at least 2 times I’m sure of, and here’s a classis K-1 fight to check out. It’s almost comical… But check out how it ends…
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/UFC+/video/x1n8uc_ufc-k1-bob-sapp-vs-kimo

MTUFC Man, that Sapp is a big dude , what a bizarre fight. Kimo thought he had it locked up, why did they give sapp such a long breather? I watched the Grand prix when it was sapp vs. hoost(2002 I think) and I thought the ref. had stopped the fight too soon and Hoost was really mad. But he lucked out anyways because Sapp couldn’t advance “cos he broke his hand and Hoost got to go on to the final. Then another of his opponents broke his shin on a kick, so both times Hoost advanced because of total fluke and he ended up winning the tourney. Where have I seen Kimo lately? Did he change to MMA? I just watched a match with him that was all hyped up and it didn’t live up to expectations. I just can’t remember where. I don’t get Pride here so I have not seen Cro Cop fight believe it or not. And I agree that we should let it rest after all we are all MMA fans and we will always have our own opinions and differences, thats what makes it interesting and why these blogs exist.

i love daily motion that fight was 2 huge tired dudes

LOL they looked drunk

[quote comment="29530"]Here we go with the band wagon jumpers. Serra got extremely lucky and gsp had a very bad night. I would be willing to bet big money gsp could win over 90 out of a 100 fights with serra, serra is a joke, you losers you say I knew he would win make me want to puke. “I knew I would win the lottery” people who say stuff like that are morons. Serra couldn’t lose, if he lost, big deal look who he’s fighting and if he wins…….he knew he would win.[/quote]

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